Gyan, and all,
I have re-read the 
draft<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments-08>,
 but I did not find any proposals for “a new resource attributes extension 
encoding to existing topological SIDs”.  The draft explicitly states that it 
does not involve any requests to IANA.

The quoted fragment in Section 2.1 suggests that such attributes may be used 
(the relevant text is highlighted):

For one IGP prefix, multiple resource-aware prefix-SIDs can be allocated. Each 
resource-aware prefix-SID may be associated with a unique <topology, algorithm> 
tuple, in this case different <topology, algorithm> tuples can be used to 
distinguish the resource-aware prefix-SIDs of the same prefix. In another case, 
for one IGP prefix, multiple resource-aware prefix-SIDs may be associated with 
the same <topology, algorithm> tuple, then an additional control plane 
distinguisher needs to be introduced to distinguish different resource-aware 
prefix-SIDs associated with the same <topology, algorithm> but different groups 
of network resources.

But I doubt this rather vague statement justifies the draft going for  
Standards Track.

Not have I found any references to the drafts with intended status Standards 
Track that define any protocol extensions you mention.  You may also take a 
look at this 
email<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/jvKe3cmJzgC8rtdXLB3xU9Yax5E/> 
from Acee (in the TEAS WG  mailing list) .

What, if anything, did I miss?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha

From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 8:02 AM
To: Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>; 
draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segme...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [spring] Intended status of 
draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments


Hi Jie

I understand the draft proposes an extension to existing topological SIDs to 
carry the resource attributes.

However since this draft proposes a new resource attributes extension encoding 
to existing topological SIDs I agree this should be standards track.

Since the topological segments are advertised by IGP OSPF or ISIS, I am 
guessing you would have a standards track draft in LSR that encodes the 
resource segments and could update the existing SR-MPLS and SRv6, OSPF and ISIS 
RFCs / drafts.

You could possibly mention the proposed encoding scheme and fields and that 
detail would be integrated into the IGP draft.

Another option would be to introduce new resource aware SIDs that is NRP 
centric  that would be applicable to both  SR-MPLS and SRv6 but would be 
independent of topological or service SID so not at that layer.  The resource 
SID would be associated with the BSID that binds the single or multiple 
candidate path to the forwarding plane and instantiates the path.  So for 
SR-MPLS it would be the entire label stack pushed onto the packet when the BSID 
is popped.  For SRv6 it would be SRH segment list associated with the candidate 
paths.

In this option you would have a standards track draft in LSR that encodes the 
resource segments and could update the existing SR-MPLS and SRv6, OSPF and ISIS 
RFCs / drafts.

The contents of the resource SID would now apply to the NRP and would be as you 
described, buffers, queues, bandwidth, SLO and SLE  parameters such as latency 
and jitter for NRP network slice.

Kind Regards


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Gyan Mishra

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 3:39 AM Dongjie (Jimmy) 
<jie.dong=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>> 
wrote:
Hi Sasha,

Thanks for the review and comment on this document.

Although this draft does not introduce new SR segment type/SRv6 behavior, there 
is change in the semantics and forwarding behavior of the resource-aware 
segments, as each resource-aware SIDs identifies a subset of the network 
resources used for packet processing.

Thus the authors consider this document belong to standard track. That said, 
the usage of IETF keywords in current version needs to be revisited and 
adjusted if needed.

Of course we would like to hear the opinions from the WG participants, and 
follow the decision of the WG.

Best regards,
Jie

From: spring [mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 2:16 PM
To: 
draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segme...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segme...@ietf.org>
Cc: spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>
Subject: [spring] Intended status of draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments

Hello,
I have read the 
draft<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments-08>,
  and I do not have any technical comments on it.
At the same time, I wonder why its intended status appears as “Standard Track”:
1.      The draft does not define any new mechanisms in the data plane or 
control plane
2.      Usage of the IETF keywords denoting requirement levels looks too 
vague/generic to me, e.g.
a.      The details of the underlay network MUST NOT be exposed to third 
parties, to prevent attacks aimed at exploiting shared network resources
b.      If there are related link advertisements, then consistency MUST be 
assured across that set of advertisements

IMHO and FWIW the draft describes how resource-aware forwarding can be achieved 
using various already-defined SR mechanisms.

Have the authors and/or the WG considered changing the intended status of the 
draft to “Informational”?

Regards,
Sasha



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