Hi Yao,

Thanks for your comments.

Please see inline ([FC]).

Thanks,
Francois

On 6 Jun 2025 at 12:12:20, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Francois,
>
>
> Thanks for bring this draft back. It seems that there's no significant
> change of this draft since v-02 about more than 4 years ago.
>
> I think 2 more aspects need to be considered compared with that time, SRv6
> SID compression and MPLS MNA:
>
> 1) Since we have SRv6 SID list can be compressed now, are all the
> procedures, especially the pseudocodes for SR proxy behavior still
> applicable.
>

[FC] As Cheng pointed out, these aspects are covered in a separate document.

> 2) I agree with Chengli that the solution for service programming with
> SR-MPLS is not that mature in the draft. Especially on the service metadata
> part. MNA-style service metadata carrying mechanism may be taken into
> consideration.
>

[FC ] The text in the draft is based on the options that were available at
the time. You’re absolutely right that it needs to be updated to take MNA
into consideration.

>
> Regards,
>
> Yao
>
>
>
>
>
> Original
> *From: *ChengLi <[email protected]>
> *To: *Francois Clad <[email protected]>;spring <[email protected]>;
> *Cc: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;6man <[email protected]>;
> *Date: *2025年06月02日 22:14
> *Subject: **[spring] Re: [mpls] Resuming discussion on
> draft-ietf-spring-sr-service-programming*
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> Hi Francois,
>
>
>
> In order to have more discussions on the lists, I share my comments
> directly here instead of the author list.
>
>
>
> 1.      We should apply for IANA of the Endpoint ASAP in order to support
> implementation.
>
> 2.      END.AN only appear once in the IANA consideration part without
> any explanation. Text is required to describe this behavior I think. What
> is the pseudo code of this behavior? Can it combine with other behavior?
>
> 3.      Should clarify the Endpoint type in each section of the
> behavior.  END.AS, END.AD, END.AM…… also only appear once in IANA
> section, text of definition and usage should be added.
>
> 4.      If we only have one type of behavior of static and dynamic proxy
> behaviors, then we might combine the code into one complete pseudo code.
> Now we have different pseudo code associate with the upper type of the
> traffic, IPv4, IPv6 or ETH.
>
> 5.  I cannot find the related text of TBA1-7 End.AM - Masquerading proxy
> with NAT & Caching, a sub-section 6.4.4 may be needed?
>
> 6.      It seems that for SR-MPLS data plane, the solution is not that
> mature, any plan regarding this?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cheng
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Francois Clad <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2025 12:25 PM
> *To:* spring <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; 6man <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [mpls] Resuming discussion on
> draft-ietf-spring-sr-service-programming
>
>
>
> (to: SPRING WG; cc: MPLS and 6MAN WGs)
>
>
>
> Dear WG,
>
>
>
> With the renewed interest in service programming at recent IETF meetings,
> we would like to resume discussion on
> draft-ietf-spring-sr-service-programming (“Service Programming with
> Segment Routing”) to progress and complete this work as a solid
> foundation for future proposals.
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-sr-service-programming/
>
>
>
> This draft describes the data plane mechanisms required for service
> segments and service programming in SR-MPLS and SRv6 networks. Its goal is
> to enable the integration of physical or virtual network functions into SR
> policies by associating each service with a SID.
>
>
>
> The draft defines two types of services:
>
> ·        SR-aware services, which natively process SR information in
> packets
>
> ·        SR-unaware services, which require an SR proxy to handle or
> adapt SR headers before the service function processes the packet.
>
> To support SR-unaware services, the draft specifies several SR proxy
> behaviors, outlining their respective benefits and limitations.
>
>
>
> Finally, the draft describes how service-related metadata can be carried
> in both SR-MPLS and SRv6 packets.
>
>
>
> We welcome any feedback, comments, or suggestions you may have on the
> draft.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Francois (on behalf of the co-authors)
>
>
>
>
>
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