Hi Ruibo,

Thanks for posting the update and the responses. Please check inline below
for a few follow-up with KT.

Please consider the issues without follow-up as been addressed.


On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 11:02 PM han <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Ketan,
>
> Thanks for your review and valuable comments., and we uploaded version 14
> according to your suggestions.
>
> Please find our responses inline below.
>
> And please let us know if you have any further comments.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ruibo
>
>
>
>
>
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> 发件人: Ketan Talaulikar via Datatracker [mailto:[email protected]]
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> 发送时间: 2026年1月21日 19:53
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> DISCUSS:
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> Thanks to the authors and the WG for their work on this document.
>
>
>
> I have a few points that I would like to discuss.
>
>
>
> <discuss-1> Section 3
>
>
>
> 180     However, due to the following reasons, it is difficult to achieve
>
> 181     these requirements currently.
>
>
>
> 183     *  The configuration is very complex.
>
>
>
> 185        In a Metro network, the number of CPEs is very large and widely
>
> 186        distributed geographically.  Moreover, the mobility requirements
>
> 187        of CPEs are relatively high, and the access location of the same
>
> 188        CPE often changes, so its IPv6 address cannot be fixed.
>
>
>
> 190        At present, an SRv6 Locator can only be configured on each CPE
>
> 191        through a controller or the Command Line Interface (CLI), which
>
> 192        increases the configuration complexity.
>
>
>
> 194     *  SRv6 Locator routes cannot be dynamically distributed.
>
>
>
> 196        A CPE can be connected to the BRAS of local MAN through various
>
> 197        types of networks, such as leased line, optical fiber, etc.  Due
>
> 198        to the diversity of connections, IGP is usually only enabled
>
> 199        within the MAN, that is, IGP will not be deployed between CPE
> and
>
> 200        BRAS.
>
>
>
> 202        As a result, the SRv6 Locator route of CPE cannot be distributed
>
> 203        to the BRAS node through IGP, and the static route can only be
>
> 204        configured manually on the BRAS or the controller.  Configuring
>
> 205        routes to the CPE on the BRAS increases the cost and workload of
>
> 206        communication and coordination.
>
>
>
> The first bullet disregards automation. It ignores that
>
> there are several ways of "provisioning" that remove the complexity. This
>
> argument also ignores the part that allocation of SRv6 Locators via DHCPv6
>
> alone is not sufficient and there is still the part of SRv6 Policy
> provisioning
>
> along with other things to get steering over them working.
>
>
>
> About the second bullet, it is obvious that IGPs are not enabled towards
>
> broadband CPEs. However, static route is not the only way for injecting
> customer
>
> routes behind the CPE from the BRAS into the provider network. BRAS
>
> implementations can have other route producers as well - this is a local
> and
>
> implementation specific matter.
>
>
>
> I can understand the obvious attraction of using the same DHCPv6 for the
>
> provisioning/allocation of customer IPv6 addresses as well as the SRv6
> Locator
>
> to simplify operations and align with existing allocation
> techniques/mechanism
>
> that are already operational in these networks. But I find all the above
>
> justifications/reasons to not hold much weight. Could you reconsider
> updating
>
> the motivation?
>
>
>
> [Co-authors]Thanks, we updated it in chapter 3 of version 14.
>
>
>
> <discuss-2> Section 5
>
>
>
> 501     For the advertisement of SRv6 locator routes, if the DHCP Relay or
>
> 502     DHCP Server device that assigns SRv6 Locators to CPEs is also a
> BRAS
>
> 503     device, it MAY locally advertise the CPE's SRv6 Locator route via
> the
>
> 504     IGP, enabling other SRv6 nodes to obtain the CPE's SRv6 Locator
>
> 505     route.
>
>
>
> When redistributing the SRv6 Locator routes via IGPs, I assume that
>
> they are advertised via the respective OSPF and IS-IS SRv6 Locator
> reachability
>
> advertisements. I believe this is important to specify with reference to
> those
>
> IGP RFCs. Further, when it comes to IGPs, there is also the algo
> associated with
>
> the locators which is not covered by this spec. Does that mean, locators
> allocated
>
> via DHCP belong only to the default algo 0? Or is there a plan to
> introduce algo
>
> in the DHCP signaling as well? Regardless, would be good to clarify in this
>
> document. But then they can be also advertised via BGP where there is no
>
> distinction between SRv6 Locators and other IPv6 Prefix reachability (also
> no
>
> algo).
>
>
>
> [Co-authors] We added new fields about Flex-Algo in the new option in
> chapter 4.2 of version 14.
>

KT> Thanks. Section 5.5 needs to explain that the reachability for the SRv6
Locators with non-zero Algo have to be advertised as Locators - refer
RFC9352 and RFC9513 for the specific TLV/LSA to be used. Those also need to
be added as references. For Algo zero they can be advertised as normal
prefix reachabilities.


>
>
> <discuss-3> Section 5.2
>
>
>
> 511     As shown in Figure 5, when a BRAS device (functioning as a DHCP
> relay
>
> 512     or DHCP server) receives an SRv6 Locator allocation request from a
>
> 513     client, it MAY assign an SRv6 Locator to the client and install a
>
> 514     corresponding SRv6 Locator route locally.  The next hop of this
> route
>
> 515     SHOULD point to the requesting client.  Through this route, the
> BRAS
>
> 516     can access the Host under the CPE, while the BRAS MAY then
> advertise
>
> 517     this route via traditional routing protocols (e.g., an IGP) to
> allow
>
> 518     other routers to learn it.
>
>
>
> 520     Upon receiving an SRv6 Locator release request from the client, the
>
> 521     BRAS MUST release the allocated SRv6 Locator, remove the local SRv6
>
> 522     Locator route, and withdraw the previously advertised SRv6 Locator
>
> 523     route via the IGP.
>
>
>
> 525     Client---------------BRAS(Relay/Server)-------------Router
>
> 526     Alloc Locator  -->  Add SRv6 locator route
>
> 527                         Advertise SRv6 Locator route -->
>
> 528     Release Locator-->  Del SRv6 locator route
>
> 529                         Withdraw SRv6 Locator route  -->
>
> 530                    Figure 5: Advertisement of SRv6 Locator Route
>
>
>
> The mechanism introduced in this document is a generic DHCPv6 feature.
>
> I can understand the use of the BRAS example as a motivation but this
> applies
>
> to several other deployment designs - e.g., SD-WAN, SRv6 Locator
> allocations to
>
> hosts in an operator's DC, etc. As such, it is important to abstract the
> normative
>
> and procedural text in section 5 from the BRAS-specific example. Can't the
>
> procedures about route advertisement and programming be specified in a
> manner
>
> that is not tied to BRAS?
>
>
>
> [Co-authors] Thanks for this useful suggestion, we changed the scenario
> which is not tied to BRAS in version 14.
>

>
> <discuss-4> Section 5.5
>
>
>
> 657     on the CPE's directly connected router.  This deployment assumes
> that
>
> 658     all relevant components shown in Figure 6 belong to a single
> trusted
>
> 659     SR domain.
>
>
>
> 661                   Client        DHCP Relay   DHCPv6 Server
>
> 662     +------+     +------+       +------+     +-----------+
>
> 663     | Host +-----+ CPE  +-------+Router+-----+    BRAS   |
>
> 664     +------+     +------+       +--+---+     +-----------+
>
> 665                                    |
>
> 666                                    |
>
> 667                             +------+-----+
>
> 668                             |  Backbone  |
>
> 669                             |  Network   |
>
> 670                             +------------+
>
> 671                Figure 6: CPE accessed through DHCP relay
>
>
>
> What is meant by "relevant components"? Are Hosts a part of this?
>
> Why only for the components in this Figure? Is it not applicable for the
>
> others deployments (w/o a relay)? Also consider abstracting from the
>
> BRAS-specific example - a more generic/normative way to say this would be
>
> that the DHCP client, server, and relay all lie within the SR domain.
>
>
>
> Please move/consolidate all these considerations and definitions of what
>
> lies within the SR domain in the Security Considerations section.
>
> Note that some of such text already exists but is wrongly placed under
>
> Privacy Considerations.
>
>
>
> Text about DHCP not having encryption is already covered in the security
>
> considerations section but that is not connected to the risks by this new
>
> extension. E.g. Could the customer/home user snoop DHCPv6 packets on CPE's
>
> link to the provider and learn the SRv6 SIDs/Locator of the provider in a
>
> home broadband scenario? What risks does that bring up? And then clarify
>
> their mitigation as indicated by the best practices in section 5.1 of
>
> RFC8754 (this is also touched upon but in section 9). The point is that
>
> the CPE is now the border node (in the BRAS example) and it needs to have
>
> the filtering abilities on internal/external interfaces as per RFC8754.
>
>
>
> [Co-authors]Thanks, we updated chapter 9, please let us know if you have
> any further comments.
>
KT> Thanks. However, there are references to CPE and BRAS in section 9 that
also need to be generalized for DHCPv6 roles.


>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> COMMENT:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Please find below some comments on this document inline in the idnits
> output of
>
> v13. Lookout for the <EoRv13> tag at the end to ensure you are seeing the
> full
>
> review.
>
>
>
> 90         SR can be instantiated on the IPv6 data plane through the use
> of the
>
> 91         Segment Routing Header (SRH) defined in [RFC8754].  SR
> instantiation
>
> 92         on the IPv6 data plane is referred to as SRv6.
>
>
>
> <major> Strictly speaking SRH is not required for realization of SRv6. It
> is
>
> only required when there is more than one segment and then we also have
> CSID.
>
> Please consider rephrasing.
>
> [Co-authors] Thanks, we added more descriptions in version 14.
>
>
>
> 129        are part of a single trusted SR domain.  The IP network customer
>
> 130        provider edge (CPE) must be managed by the operator providing
>
> 131        services or by a trusted partner.
>
>
>
> <minor> Does it affect the document if the "trusted partner" part is
> removed?
>
> [Co-authors] Thanks, we added more descriptions in chapter3 of version 14.
>
>
>
> 167        In this network, operators hope to achieve interconnection
> between
>
> 168        access users through End-to-End SRv6 tunnels.  Taking the
> service
>
> 169        traffic from Host1 to Host2 as an example, CPE1 is the SRv6
> ingress
>
> 170        node and CPE2 is the SRv6 egress node.  The SRv6 Locator should
> be
>
>
>
> <minor> End-to-End would perhaps mean host to host. Please consider
> rephrasing
>
> to clarify that SRv6 is CPE to CPE.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we changed it to CPE-to-CPE in version 14..
>
>
>
> 171        configured on the CPEs.  Other devices in the network learn the
> SRv6
>
> 172        Locator routes of the CPEs.
>
>
>
> <minor> By "network" you mean the SP network and not the home network.
> Please
>
> clarify.
>
> [Co-authors] Thanks, we added more descriptions in version 14.
>
>
>
> 174        At the same time, SRv6 policies need to be configured on CPEs to
>
> 175        steer the service traffic between CPEs to the specified SRv6
>
> 176        forwarding path.  The SRv6 policy can be manually configured
>
> 177        statically or issued through the controller, and its specific
>
> 178        configuration method is out of the scope of this document.
>
>
>
> <major> I am guessing this is about "provisioning" of SR Policies. This
> term
>
> includes local configuration on the CPE (via CLI, NETCONF/YANG, APIs, etc.)
>
> or signaling via a protocol from a controller. Please clarify.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we changed “The SRv6 policy can be manually
> configured statically” to “The SRv6 policy can be manually configured
> statically (via command-line interface (CLI), NETCONF, YANG, APIs, etc.)”.
>
>
>
> 280        An IA_SRV6_LOCATOR option may only appear in the options area
> of a
>
> 281        DHCP message.  A DHCP message may contain multiple
> IA_SRV6_LOCATOR
>
> 282        Options (though each must have a unique IAID).
>
>
>
> <major> Isn't the use of MAY and MUST appropriate here since it impacts
>
> interoperability (e.g., error handling when the uniqueness check fails).
>
> In general, I found there to be a few places where the use of BCP14
> keywords
>
> would be appropriate instead of their lowercase usage - I will leave it to
>
> the authors' call.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we check it in RFC 9915, and found the same words
> are used.
>
>
>
> 382           -  SRv6-Locator: 0-16 octets.  This field encodes the SRv6
>
> 383              Locator.  The SRv6 Locator is encoded in the minimal
> number of
>
> 384              octets for the given number of bits.  Trailing bits MUST
> be set
>
> 385              to zero and ignored when received.
>
>
>
> <major> What is "the given number of bits"? Please merge the sentence
> below into
>
> this field description for clarity. Perhaps:
>
>
>
> "The SRv6 Locator is encoded in the minimal number of octets for the SRv6
> SID
>
> Locator length that is LB-Len plus LN-Len."
>
>
>
> Then please add validation for these two length fields. Can one or both of
> them
>
> be non-zero?
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we updated it in version 14.
>

KT> Can LB-Len + LN-Len be zero? Can SRv6 locator be a default route :: ?
If not then the minimum should be 1 octet and hence LB-Len + LN-Len cannot
be zero. Am I right?

Thanks,
Ketan



>
>
> 387           -  IALocator-Options: Options associated with this SRv6
> Locator.
>
> 388              A variable-length field (determined by subtracting the
> length
>
> 389              of the SRv6-Locator from the Option-Len minus 12).  The
> Status
>
> 390              code "NoSRv6LocatorAvail" indicate the server has no
> locators
>
> 391              available to assign to the IA_SRv6_LOCATOR(s).
>
>
>
> <question> I am not a DHCP expert and I am wondering if IALocator-Options
> is
>
> a new set of options (none of which are introduced by this document) OR
>
> if this is a field where existing DHCP options can be conveyed. If it is
> the
>
> latter, what options are those? Can these aspects be clarified?
>
>  [Co-authors] Yes, this draft defines two new DHCPv6 options,with two
> option values assigned by IANA, 149 and 150 (chapter 4 and chapter 8).
>
>
>
> 501        For the advertisement of SRv6 locator routes, if the DHCP Relay
> or
>
> 502        DHCP Server device that assigns SRv6 Locators to CPEs is also a
> BRAS
>
> 503        device, it MAY locally advertise the CPE's SRv6 Locator route
> via the
>
> 504        IGP, enabling other SRv6 nodes to obtain the CPE's SRv6 Locator
>
> 505        route.
>
>
>
> <major> Isn't the above text already covered in the next section (5.2)? If
> so,
>
> can the above paragraph be deleted? I find there is text related to route
>
> processing in individual sub-sections and then also in section 5.2 which is
>
> needless repetition and also affects the clarity. Please pick one approach
>
> that is then consistently followed throughout section 5.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we updated it in version 14.
>
>
>
> 507     5.2.  Advertisement of SRv6 Locator Route
>
>
>
> <minor> If all of the route processing aspects are being consolidated in
> one
>
> sub-section then please consider moving it as the last sub-section of
> section 5
>
> after all the DHCP procedures are covered.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we updated it in version 14.
>
>
>
> 569        After obtaining the SRv6 Locator assigned by the DHCPv6 server,
> how
>
> 570        to assign local SRv6 SIDs based on this SRv6 Locator, how to use
>
> 571        multiple assigned SRv6 Locators, and how to advertise these
> SRv6 SIDs
>
> 572        to the rest of the network are not within the scope of this
> document.
>
> 573        If the client uses the assigned SRv6 Locator to configure local
> SRv6
>
> 574        SIDs, the preferred and valid lifetimes of those SRv6 Locators
> MUST
>
> 575        NOT be longer than the remaining preferred and valid lifetimes
>
> 576        respectively for the assigned SRv6 Locator at any time.
>
>
>
> <major> I am not able to follow the last sentence above. Is it meant to
> say -
>
> "preferred and valid lifetimes of those SRv6 SIDs MUST NOT"? But then there
>
> is no leasing/allocation of SRv6 SIDs. I think I am missing something here
> ...
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we added more descriptions in version 14.
>
>
>
> 595        DHCP allows a client to request new SRv6 Locators to be
> assigned by
>
> 596        sending additional new IA_SRV6_LOCATOR options.  However, a
> typical
>
> 597        operator usually prefers to assign a single, larger prefix.  In
> most
>
> 598        deployments, it is recommended that the client request a larger
> SRv6
>
> 599        Locator in its initial transmissions rather than request
> additional
>
> 600        SRv6 Locators later on.
>
>
>
> <minor> Should that be RECOMMENDED - i.e., BCP14 keyword?
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we modified it.
>
>
>
> 622        When operating as a BRAS device, the DHCPv6 server MAY install a
>
> 623        local SRv6 Locator route pointing to the CPE and advertise this
> route
>
> 624        via an IGP upon assigning an SRv6 Locator to the CPE.
>
>
>
> <minor> Please avoid repetition of such text in multiple sections and
>
> consolidate all the route processing in one section. This happens in
> several
>
> places under section 5 and so I will not point out further such instances.
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we updated it in version 14.
>
>
>
> 816     9.  Privacy Considerations
>
>
>
> 818        See Section 24 of [I-D.ietf-dhc-rfc8415bis] for the DHCP privacy
>
> 819        considerations.
>
>
>
> 821        The SR domain is a trusted domain, as defined in [RFC8402],
> Sections
>
> 822        2 and 8.2.  Having such a well-defined trust boundary is
> necessary in
>
> 823        order to operate SRv6-based services for internal traffic while
>
> 824        preventing any external traffic from accessing or exploiting the
>
> 825        SRv6-based services.  Care and rigor in IPv6 address allocation
> for
>
> 826        use for SRv6 SID allocations and network infrastructure
> addresses, as
>
> 827        distinct from IPv6 addresses allocated for end users and
> systems (as
>
> 828        illustrated in Section 5.1 of [RFC8754]), can provide the clear
>
> 829        distinction between internal and external address space that is
>
> 830        required to maintain the integrity and security of the SRv6
> Domain.
>
>
>
> 832        When assigning SRv6 Locators to SRv6 Segment Endpoint Nodes
> using
>
> 833        DHCPv6 as specified in this document, CPEs and BRAS devices MUST
>
> 834        operate within a single trusted SR domain.
>
>
>
> <major> The above two paragraphs are not privacy but security
> considerations?
>
>  [Co-authors] Thanks, we changed it to security considerations in version
> 14.
>
>
>
> 895     11.2.  Informative References
>
>
>
> 897        [RFC8754]  Filsfils, C., Ed., Dukes, D., Ed., Previdi, S.,
> Leddy, J.,
>
> 898                   Matsushima, S., and D. Voyer, "IPv6 Segment Routing
> Header
>
> 899                   (SRH)", RFC 8754, DOI 10.17487/RFC8754, March 2020,
>
> 900                   <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8754>.
>
>
>
> <major> This should be normative reference due to the security
> considerations.
>
> [Co-authors]Thanks, we updated the references, please let us know if you
> have any further comments.
>
>
>
> <EoRv13>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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