Is the foam "tight and concentric"?  Will it bear the applied horizontal force 
of 1/2 the water-filled piping weight within the ZOI?  Don't tell Kraig 
Kirschner - he'll have a stroke.

LMAO,
Steve L.



-----Original Message-----
From: Thom McMahon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Seismic bracing for CPVC?


Just a thought for the Forum:

If a CPVC system is encased in a chemically compatible spray foam insulation 
system, is seismic bracing still required?

Seismic bracing and restraint is to prevent "differential movement" between 
the building structure and the piping system. If the system is held in place 
by the foam, (with insufficient mass or acceleration to break out of the 
foam) what more could you ask of a restraint system? Additionally why would 
this only apply to CPVC? Theoretically you could foam in place all types of 
sprinkler or mechanical systems and provide the bracing and restraint that 
way.

Look out Tolbrace, here comes "Foam Brace"! "All Copy rights and patents 
reserved by Foam Brace Inc.

Ya'll have a nice weekend ya hear.

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc. / Foam Brace Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roland Huggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Seismic bracing for CPVC?


>A better question would be  - Does anyone know of ANY  listed  Longitudinal 
>sway braces?  YOu basically have to take a listed  lateral sway brace and 
>install it in accordance with 13:9.3.5.3.5  (lateral within 24 inches of 
>the main acting as a longitudinal).
>
> One of the problems for a longitudinal is getting a tight enough fit  to 
> avoid slippage WITHOUT cracking the pipe.  I would say this  presents the 
> same problem when using just a U-bolt attached directly  to a structural 
> member.  Thus, what you connect to is just as  important as what you 
> connect with.
>
> Roland
>
> On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Eric Daigle wrote:
>
>> I have a high rise condo building that is using CPVC pipe that is  strap
>> to underside of the deck using two hole straps.  The mains are 2" and
>> the lines are 1".  According to 13 (2002 ed) 9.3.5.3.8 lateral braces
>> are not required; however there is a requirement to include  longitudinal
>> bracing.  Does anyone know of a longitudinal brace for CPVC pipe 2"  and
>> smaller that is attached directly to the underside of the decks?
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Daigle
>>
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