Wal-Mart does them as ordinary 2 with 250 hose allowance. Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS Burtell Fire Protection, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.burtellfire.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Grocery Store Cart Storage...
Mark: I'm with you on this, but only as a minimum, and NO WAY on OH-I! Closely racked plastic carts more closely resemble a 4-5' high pile of plastic pallets, than any other commodity. If you look at the Hose demand for Group A plastics less than 5' in Table 12.2.1.2 your looking at a 500 Gpm demand, obviously not the low end of OH which is 250 Gpm, and a lot closer to EH. What would you do with a 40x40 area full of plastic pallets 5' high. That's the direction I would follow. Thom McMahon Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sornsin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: RE: Grocery Store Cart Storage... OH, Gr. II sounds reasonable for storage of plastic carts at a grocery store. Mark A. Sornsin, PE Fire Protection Engineer Ulteig Engineers, Inc. Fargo, ND 701.280.8591 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haugen, Charles Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Grocery Store Cart Storage... Plastic Carts... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haugen, Charles Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Grocery Store Cart Storage... I have a call into the G.C.... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Pinigis Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Grocery Store Cart Storage... Are the carts made of plastic like so many that I have seen recently? Paul J. Pinigis, P.E. Chief Life Safety Engineer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haugen, Charles Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Grocery Store Cart Storage... Question: Grocery Store 'Cart Storage' area - considered .15 / or .20 Density? Granted - nothing combustible in this room unless like other grocery stores... they have displays, etc... in this area as well... (The word 'Storage' is the reason I'm asking the question.) Any comments? Thanks in advance!! Charles Haugen SimplexGrinnell - Fargo, ND _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum ************************************************************************ ********************** IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. ************************************************************************ ********************** _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
