Tom:
Check with your electrical supply house. I believe you have Graybar Elect. in Boston, they carry the mats gloves and liners. The rubber liners are like fall protection and required to be inspected and tested. (Fill gloves with air and submerge, look for bubbles) If you know any electricians or people that work for a public utility they can give you better advice than I can.

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Duross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: regarding fire pumps


That makes sense to me.
I don't get soaked anymore, we use remote reading hosemonsters or digital
flowmeters.
This time of year, hosemonsters are down in the bottom of a catch basin, no
water anywhere except for rolling hose leakage.
I've gotten zapped a few times.  I got a nice industrial lead set for my
fluke meters and that helps.
Are the leathers like a welder's apron?  I'm shopping for one.

Tom

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew J.
Willis
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: regarding fire pumps


One of the first things I got the company to buy when I started testing
controllers years ago, was a set of rubber gloves and protective leather
outer shells. I figure they were required somewhere as a minimum. My father taught me about the gloves and a nice rubber mat to stand on many years ago. Mainly, if the gloves (rubber) somehow had a pinhole, they were no good. It
was all kinda amusing to me, since I normally was soaked from taking
readings with the pitot just prior to the VAC/AMP readings. With the
readings now available on the controller, this should eventually work out of the system. I do know from Navy days that the electricians used a grounding probe to be sure capacitors were fully discharged before entering a panel. I do not remember any capacitors in the panels, but there may be depending on
motor type.

R/

Matt

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duross
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: regarding fire pumps

I think it's more than that.  The building inspector was leading me to
believe I would need to buy protective clothing and grounding equipment.
The was I understood it was like a welders vest with cuffs and heavy gloves,
all grounded.  It was a busy time, water was flowing, it was 8 degrees out
and everyone was cold but he suggested I look into it.  I didn't get the
impression it was a local requirement and he did say they just finished
additional OSHA training.  Our inspectors do get a lot of schooling here.
I'll email him and ask him to elaborate and post what he tells me.  I know
he said he was authorized to stop me, the only safety equipment I was
wearing at the time was a hardhat.

Tom

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Niehoff
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: regarding fire pumps


This is my understanding.  OHSA has no new electrical requirements per se;
however, OHSA does expect the use of consensus standards to help in the
selection of the best method to achieve compliance with the OSHA regulations
and therefore; reference NFPA 70E.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATION
S&p_id=25540


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duross
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: regarding fire pumps

A couple of things to share..

FM has issued a recall on woods couplings and are requesting they be
replaced.
I did a test the other day with FM and he noted the woods and told me he'd
send me the info.

I've also been told, but can't confirm there are new OSHA reg's on entering
a motor contoller.
I was told, a couple of times, that there are new training courses and
apparell required.
I guess this means taking voltage and current readings.
Anyone know more about this?

Tom Duross


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