It is an amazing project.  I worked on part of the Pelli Tower.  I heard it
is the largest single sprinkler project in the world.  It will truly be an
amazing site when it is fully completed.

And, to tie it in with the Design Software thread - The sprinkler portion is
being designed with AutoSprink.

T 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hose valve pressure loss

I'm on the road and don't have my usual reference materials handy, NFPA 13
and 14 fitting tables offer equivalent footage that add up to loss that in
that range and higher, depending on flow rate.  I've mentioned before that
manufacturers tend not to offer friction loss data on their straight hose
valves - though a couple do.  Keep asking and you'll turn up some
information - have you tryed to contact Elkhart yet?  I think they may have
a loss curve.

Steve Leyton

P.S.  Who's seen the City Center site in Las Vegas?  Staring out at it right
now - biggest private-sector dig I've ever seen.  They say it will require
about 300 fitters for the FP work when it peaks ...


-----Original Message-----
From:   Todd Williams - work [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wed 2/14/2007 10:56 AM
To:     [email protected]
Cc:     
Subject:        hose valve pressure loss

Someone in the Forum recently made a reference to friction loss in fire hose
valves being around 3 psi with some higher. Is there any documentation for
that? I haven't be able to locate any. Thanks.

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
860-535-2080
www.fpdc.com 

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