Craig,

I have to put in another plug for AutoSprink.  I have been involved in 2
major projects where the design team had to supply 3d drawings for
coordination.  AutoSprink had ZERO problems providing this for coordination.
I believe that this is one of the many areas where AutoSprink really shines
as compared to some of the other sprinkler programs out there right now. 

Feel free to contact me direct if you want any answers as to how this is
done in AutoSprink and how I have seen it work on other projects.

Travis Mack

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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 3D cad capabilities ??

I use the SMaRTools (Hydratec product). I have done one project with it and
we found that the beta release didn't play well with ACAD 2007 so I had to
convert my drawing to Solid pipes. Solidpipes worked great for collision
detection using NavisWorks.
I am 3D modeling for another project now using the full release but haven't
tested the 3D pipe against ACAD 2007 or NavisWorks. I still convert to
Solidpipes.
Anybody else using this?

Jim Zimmerman

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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:59 PM
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Subject: RE: 3D cad capabilities ??

Hydracad has recently come out with an add-on to their package to create 3d
objects from their 2d drawings.  We haven't gotten it working yet, probably
because I'm running hydracad under ABS, but the good folks at Hydratec are
working with me on it.

As I understand it, HCad will create 3d autocad solids, which you should
have no trouble inserting into an ABS drawing, just don't expect the
automatic collision detection in ABS to work with it as it won't be 3d ABS
piping, but ACAD solids.

See www.hydracad.com for the real skinny.  I bet if you call they'll be glad
to talk to you about it even if you're not a customer.

Eric Shelton
Hankins and Anderson, Inc.

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What we have is AutoCAD ABS and what the team is looking for is a 3d AutoCAD
compatible file that can be imported into AutoCAD 2007.  That's about all
the information I have right now.  So what I'm looking for is information on
the sprinkler design packages out there with the ability to export a 3d
model.

Thanks for the info so far, every little bit helps,


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff
Whitfield
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 3D cad capabilities ??

Craig,

It may depend on what you are trying to do as a "team".  To produce the
drawings in 3d in AutoSprink is standard procedure but AutoSprink uses
objects in its drawings where AutoCAD uses lines and attributes.

I will email you off-line with a contact person that can answer that
question with accuracy.

Cliff
Fire Design, Inc.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:30 PM
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Subject: 3D cad capabilities ??

Got a question for all those DESIGNERS out there.

How many contractors have the capability or have produced their designs in
3D?

We've got a major project where the mgmt. team is expecting all the
contractors to submit their installation drawings to us in 3d AutoCAD
compatible format for import into our 3d package.

Is this a big deal with HydraCad and AutoSprink or not?

Need some input.

Thanks,


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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