That is soooo freak'n frustrating!!! I can not stand the "just because I say so" inspectors. What is even more frustrating is when his boss, the FM, knows even less. I was a plan check inspector for a fire dept. and I took pride in working with the contractors in getting the job done. If we had a difference, we worked together to fix the problem. Because of that kind of relationship I had very few contractors try to pull the wool over my eyes. The ones who did try to pull the wool quickly learned I turned into the north arrow nazi. lol Fair, firm and friendly, lets get the job done right and not cost anyone any more time and money than is necessary. Owen
>>> "Dale Wingard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/26/07 1:04 PM >>> Understand. We have already been down that road with him, bottom line, he wants the head. If you read the definitions for bathroom and compartment in NFPA 13, you will see that it is very clear that they are separate rooms. We were not able to get him to accept it even when we showed him what was in black and white. Good luck, Dale F. Wingard, CET Senior Designer Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc. 251.649.2034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: bathrooms in 13 residential I am talking to Orange Beach. However, I want to know the TRUTH regardless of what TP requires. He is hung up on the "required level of protection" statement. Where do we define this level? If it is an AHJ call then I understand. If it is written then we have a discussion point. Greg Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Wingard Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: bathrooms in 13 residential Greg, A compartment only requires a minimum of 8" lintel, it can have a cased opening. However, if you are talking about Orange Beach, then you will have to add the head. Dale F. Wingard, CET Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc. 251.649.2034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: bathrooms in 13 residential NFPA #13 2007 edition A.3.3.2 Bathroom. A room is still considered a bathroom if it contains just a toilet. Additionally, two bathrooms can be adjacent to each other and are considered separate rooms, provided they are enclosed with the required level of construction. I have an AHJ that is stating that this excerpt from NFPA #13 is requiring a toilet room to have 20 minute walls to be considered a separate room with a UL listed door. Has anyone researched this? Is this the intent in 13? Thanks, Greg Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
