It caused leaking "ESC" between brass and plastic on head adapters.
Same adapters used for both sidewall and pendants,


Top Myers
RelMark Group
961 Pottstown Pike
Chester Springs, PA 19425
O - 610-321-2415 X-219, C - 610-952-0965
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
McGahan
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: survey pipe dope vs teflon tape

That is very odd. If the dope was not compatible with CPVC and caused
leaks
then the leaks would have come from the CPVC. Did it crack the fittings
or
cause separation between the brass and plastic on the head adaptor?

Greg

Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Top Myers
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: survey pipe dope vs teflon tape

We had contractor on CPVC job use Teflon on 1200 pendent heads and pipe
dope on 400 sidewall heads.  After a few months sidewall heads started
leaking and we found that the Teflon dope was not compatible with CPVC.
They used a permabond product that was Teflon but not compatible dope.  

More and more contractors who do both steel and CPVC are buying all
products that are CPVC compatible for all jobs to avoid possible
contamination and stress cracking.

Top Myers
RelMark Group
961 Pottstown Pike
Chester Springs, PA 19425
O - 610-321-2415 X-219, C - 610-952-0965

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Duross
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: survey pipe dope vs teflon tape

Coincidently, we just started putting just a "dot" of anaerobic dope on
the
teflon on a few plastic jobs because we were getting some drips on the
concealed heads (p.o.s. socket they give you, better with an impact
socket)
and it's working fine but I've always been cautious about using dope
around
heads, especially anaerobics.  They can seal a head as well as a thread.
I
don't use any of the traditional dopes anymore, haven't for years.  I
was
hooked on permabond but at $50 a 2/3 filled quart (some metric
equivalent),
it was ex$pensive.  I love superdope, better consistency and doesn't dry
out
on the brush as fast.
There are some medium and high density tapes out there and colored that
work
pretty well, less wraps and a more durable seal but I haven't tried them
on
heads yet.
I will say on dissimilar metals, especially steel into brass or bronze;
dope
over tape every time.  Always have and always will.  It's a little
cleaner
on an exposed piece, like a FDV to dope and tape over the dope.
Other than that, we just use a dab of anaerobic dope while the pipes
turning
and make on the fitting.

Tom Duross
Go Red Sox

On plastic jobs, I instruct my fitters to just use teflon tape on the
sprinkler heads.
On steel pipe jobs, we tape and dope everything.

I worked on power plants for years, and we used anerobic pipe dope
without
teflon tape quite  successfully.

Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire Protection



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