I can't say what your state code requirements are but in CA and other
states, under the terms of the U-code model and statutory regulations,
the owner is required to maintain the systems in accordance with codes
and standards adopted at the time of permit.  So you would be
responsible for compliance with the older standards only, which may or
may not include an automatic water supply for the standpipe system.  Are
you sure the pump was sized for the standpipes?  Was it part of the
sprinkler retro?

Steve Leyton
PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING


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Duross
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:01 AM
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Subject: Pump Replacement

I have an older residential high-rise that needs a new fire pump.
It was built roughly 40 years ago and retrofitted with sprinklers 5
years
ago under and ordinance change.
The fire pump I believe to be original.
Standpipes in the end Stairwells are 4" class 3 to the top (8th) floor
and
even has a third standpipe in the elevator core with an FDV and cabinet.
It has a 500 gpm end suction pump that received a new
controller-transfer
switch when the sprinklers were installed.
It's obviously a 65 psi design but the pump won't make it and
hydraulically
appears to be undersized back to day one.

I want to replace it with another pump under the same residual
requirement
as the original design but I can't seem to find any documentation to
tell me
if I'm following the language of the standard or code.  I know its
probably
a code question (we're boca '93 with some amendments) and there's
verbiage
in our building code about making modifications and alterations but this
is
about maintaining a design versus adopting current (100 psi)
requirements.

I have issues with attempting to redesign it to current standpipe
requirements like the size of the supplies and standpipes, they'll need
more
HP than if they were 6". The building is only about 100' end to end and
the
center one isn't required (not sure if it ever was). Plus, I'm getting
close
to 175, maybe a little over if my rough numbers are right.  That opens
up
another potential can of worms.

I haven't approached the FD or ISD but I think they'll probably want
full
current conformance and I'd probably say the same in their position.

Has anyone done this lately?

Tom Duross
Go Red Sox


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