According to the code, the sprinklers throughout a room should be of the
same Temp rating and sensitivity, 

It would be more logical to use lower temp rating and QR heads under an
obstruction. 


Dan 

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Obstruction issue


Listen to Roland, and think about how sprinklers work. Sprinklers under 
obstructions will typically operate only when there is a fire directly 
under them, so at most 2 sprinklers will operate, and they will in all 
probability prevent the sprinklers directly above them at ceiling from 
operating. Stop thinking about a fire as big as the operating area, 
because if you have that, the battle was lost a long time ago.

Joe

Todd Williams - work wrote:
> Is it really academic when the sprinklers below the obstructions 
> triple the number in the area and the heads at the deck might do 
> little other than activate?
>
>
> At 01:02 PM 8/27/2007, you wrote:
>> stop thinking about academic realities and embrace the explicit
>> methodology.  After all, do fires activate sprinklers in areas that
>> are long rectangles,  do individual sprinklers discharge water as a
>> 10X13 shape, do you think we are getting the assigned density on the
>> floor, etc etc?  Why get hung up on ignoring the sprinkler below the
>> obstruction (provided it's not an ESFR and though unstated, it isn't
>> a mile of 1 inch pipe feeding multiple sprinklers)?
>>
>> Roland
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Todd Williams - work wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Secondly, NFPA 13 (2002) section 11.2.3.1.8(6) says that sprinklers
>>> below obstructions do not need to be included in the hydraulic
>>> calculations. I am having a hard time accepting this as well
>>> because I'm not sure the potential fire demand will only include
>>> sprinklers at the deck. Actually, sprinklers at the deck may be so
>>> obstructed that very little will effectively get to the fire area.
>>> I would think it be more than likely a combination of sprinklers
>>> above and below. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Todd G. Williams, PE
>>
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