George,

I feel your pain!

I went thru the same process 13 years ago of letting my Level-3
certification lapse (Let's just say I let my pride get in the way) and
have had to start all over from scratch.
Fortunately, I am and have been an instructor for the Florida Automatic
Sprinkler Training Association for more than a decade and currently also
teach the State-approved college credit certificate course in Fire
Sprinkler System Technology at our local community college.

Re-testing should be a breeze ;-) 

Yeah... RIGHT!

Ray Vance
Chief Engineering Tech.
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
www.waynefire.com

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:22 PM
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Subject: RE: FW: NICET changes, big (Part 2)

Jimmy-
We understand the incremental method will run parallel to the new one
for awhile, and I don't know that the timeframe has been developed.

This was an update on where we see ourselves, and NICET, as of our last
meeting. It is NOT an official proclamation from NICET, as the recent
restriction on what materials can be taken in with you.

And it is subject to change, as this industry should be well aware.

If you're a fan of the paper and pencil method, and function well
without unbound materials, by all means, pursue the heck out of your
testing. I'd be surprised if waiting time would make you re-take an
exam. 

I will caution, from personal experience, that NICET is -
understandably- rule-driven. If you let your certification run out and
remain inactive for
>3 years, you will start over. Happened to me and I re-took all of my
elements from scratch, I'm one of the few Level VI's you'll meet.

But we're still in the process, this was meant to be an explanatory
update.

glc

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:12 PM
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George, Will those of us in the process of testing be grandfathered in
the incremental process that we started?  Will we be affected if we have
completed necessary work elements, but are waiting on time to achieve
our next level?

Jimmy Waite


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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: FW: NICET changes, big (Part 2)

It's been a fascinating process. Great group- can't wait for either Ken
Isman or Cecil Bilbo to join us, now that Kevin went to Schirmer.
Russ's letter in support of Incremental wouldn't have been dismissed
with respect as quickly.....

glc

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:38 PM
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George,
 
  Well put and well said.
 
Phil  

Philip L.  Gaughan, S.E.T.
VP Northeast Region of ASCET
NICET Board of  Governors
215-850-1672




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