I say you're crazy for thinking so.  If you don't like the written Law,
change it.  If you don't want to change it then get a variance from it.  But
don't brow beat an Official that is doing his job that he was appointed to
do because in this case something less than the letter of the Code would be
good for one of your customers.  The same could be said by every
installer/designer on every single project.  And if the AHJ offered your
competition a chance to install something less than what is specified in the
Code without back-up, who would be the first to throw the egg?

Garth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Owen Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: Over-kill? A true situation


Redondo Beach has a sprinkler and standpipe ordinance. 1) Any new
construction greater than 750 square feet is required to have fire
sprinklers installed. 2) If any portion of a (new) building cannot be
reached with 150’ of hose stretched from a fire engine parked on a
public way, fire standpipes shall be installed.

A business owner opened a garden center on a 40’ x 200’ lot.  A
sales/display building sits with the rear of the building 180’ from the
public way. The building is single story, 1100 sqft. The business owner
was required to put in a full blown 13 system with a single 2 ½”
standpipe half way down the lot. That means a 4” supply with a DCVA and
a 2 x 2 ½” FDC . The owner had to trench across the street to reach the
main ($30,000.00).

All said and done, $ 62,000.00 to protect a 1100 sqft., single story
garden center. Is that an AHJ run-a-muck or am I crazy for thinking so?
I would love to hear what you folks have to say.

BTW, the standpipe ordinance was written in 1991 when the fire trucks
carried 150' of preconnect, quick attack hose. In 2001 the fire trucks
were reconfigured with 200' and 300' preconnect hoses.

Owen Evans
Gone from the RBFD plan check office for 6 years.
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