Tim,

Here is my two cents worth (it was worth a dime before the current economic 
crisis!) Also, could you answer a few questions so a better analysis could be 
made?

(1) Did you do the proper two-hydrant flow test?
(2) What was the full flow test for the area (static, residual, and flow)
(3) How far away from the pressure reading hydrant did you do the pitot (flow) 
reading?
(4) What size underground line was this test taken from?
(5) Was it dead-end or a circulating (looped/gridded) main?
(6) Was there any significant elevation change between the flow and pressure 
hydrants?
(7) If it is a dead-end line, did you flow the hydrant on the end of the line 
or take the pressure readings from the end hydrant?

All things being equal, a pitot reading should be pretty much the same as the 
residual pressure reading minus the elevation difference between the hydrants, 
any friction loss in the piping system associated with the distance between the 
two hydrants, the friction loss thru the type of hydrant in place, and the 
actual coefficient of the tested opening.

Typically, when you have such a dicrepency between the residual pressure and 
the pitot readings there is an obstruction somewhere in the line, or a valve is 
closed (or partially closed) somewhere in the piping system and you are not 
getting the proper available flow thru the test hydrant.

I am also not getting the warm and fuzzies regarding the flow test paper 
information either, just based on the numbers you indicate. It is entirely 
possible the flow test you are referencing is also incorrect or was not 
performed properly.

Ray Vance - SET
Chief Sales Designer
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
www.waynefire.com
(407) 877-5563  office
(321) 436-2184  cell



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson
Sent: 2008-10-14 21:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: FLOW / PITOT READINGS

Am I ignorant on this subject? Please let me know.
If you flow a 2 1/2" hydrant, and the pitot reading is 55 psi the gpm will 
always be 1250. Right? (I understand you factor in the coefficient of the 
hydrant nozzle).
My pitot gauge manufac tured by Potter shows BOTH gpm AND psi.
I'm looking at a flow test paper. Through a 2.5" hydrant outlet. Residual is 90 
psi @ 840 GPM.
Is this possible?

Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire Pro.

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