And that, in a nutshell, was my whole point. You need to work with your client first. I used to have a client that wanted no bad news reported to the FM (in a jurisdiction that reporting was required). The other part of the agreement was carte blanche to fix any problems found. So the day after the inspection a squeaky clean report would be filed and the techs would be on site making sure that report was true. Third part of the agreement was that anything that was necessary for the FD to know, like a system or pump out of service, would be reported along with the we're working on it notice. Best client ever.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I recall, the initial message noted the fact that the AHJ received > his FEDEX prior to the school district receiving theirs. It seems to me > the event that started this accident in progress was the failure of the > inspecting individual to make a phone call to the school district. > > You're likely to win this battle, but the war was lost when the call to > the school district wasn't made prior to dropping the FEDEX envelop into > the box. You might want to contact your attorney, but I wouldn't do the > other stuff. > > Bill Brooks > > William N. Brooks, P.E. > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. > 372 Wilett Drive > Severna Park, MD 21146 > 410-544-3620 Phone > 410-544-3032 FAX > 412-400-6528 Cell > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: inspection reports and copying fire marshals > From: "Chris Cahill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, November 17, 2008 9:56 am > To: <[email protected]> > > First, you acted correctly in my opinion. You witnessed a crime plain > and > simple. See IFC 107 or 109. There is no doubt your state has laws > against > tampering with fire protection equipment. When you see a crime you > report it > to the authorities. > > Second, get your lawyer on this immediately. His emails are public > record > most likely. Confirm he sent the email. Then sue for damages, you will > win > and get a written apology to help save your reputation. In the end > that's > about all one has in business. > > Third, contact his superior, school board? Do it in public at the next > meeting. I bet they'd like to know. Settle for no less than the manager > finding employment more suitable to his skills and abilities. > > Fourth, even if he didn't send the email contact the media. It doesn't > matter if there are legitimate reasons the system was out of service. 6 > years cannot be justified in anyway. If there were a legitimate issue > the > AHJ would have already known and it's not. Perhaps this is a problem > elsewhere that needs to be brought to the public light. Perhaps there > are a > lot of drive-by inspections by your competitors that need to be exposed. > > Think of it this way had you not sent it in would anyone use kid gloves > on > you if they found out. How would you like the media to be knocking on > your > door because they were doing a special report on the state of schools. > Through the public record process they found your report with the school > but > not with the AHJ. Do you think you'd be in business very long? > > If you don't get the truth out the other side will spin it and even if > you > don't inspect schools those people know people who might need sprinkler > work > and check references. "Yeah I remember XYZ sprinkler company, was it > last > year, screwing a friend of mine" - Can you hear that at the fire pit at > the > cabin one summer night with 3rd and 6th parties chatting it up over > beer. > > If you don't protect yourself who will? > > Chris Cahill, P.E. > Fire Protection Engineer > Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. > > 763-658-4483 > 763-658-4921 fax > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mail: P.O. Box 69 > Waverly, MN 55390 > > Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW > Waverly, MN 55390 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: inspection reports and copying fire marshals > > I just had a school district call me and yell at me for a report I did. > I > conducted a water flow test 2 months ago at this school. The water > department and I observed that the PIV was shut. It had been shut for > the > past 6 years. > Long story short the school asked me to open the valve and inspect for > other > problems. I spent an entire day surveying the school and wrote a 13 page > report with pictures. Serious issues like rooms missing sprinklers. > Ceiling > clouds missing sprinklers etc. No drains or inspectors tests etc. > I sent a copy to the fire marshal and building dept. Well fed ex > delivered > it to the fire marshal first and called the district before they got > their > copy. > The school dist manager said that he emailed every school district in > the > area advising them not to use us and is threatening to sue us over > sending a > copy to the fire marshal. > > > Forest Wilson > Cherokee Fire > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:56:27 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Seismic information Brownsville, TX - Monterrey, MX > > > I am in desperate need of some seismic information for the area around > Monterrey Mexico, > > Or someone familiar with the Mexican "Manual for Design of Seismic, > CFE)? > > Here's the data I've gotten. I need to know if it parallels IBC as far > as > when EQ bracing is required or if it's totally different and how these > numbers and descriptions relate to IBC? > > "5.2.- Seismic Data: (Per Manual of Design for Seismic, CFE) > Occupancy classification B > Structural System classification Type 1 > Soil Profile Type From geotechnical report > Seismic Zone A > Response Spectra c= 0.16 > Ta= 0.30 > Tb= 1.50 > R= 2/3 > Ductility Factor Q= 2" > > Thanks! > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Specialist > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ch2m.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
