Why not?   Why wouldn't they?  Why, specifically, COULDN'T they?   

BTW, check out the new pipe sizing and meter loss tables adopted for
2009 13D.  There is now a prescriptive or "scheduled" design alternative
to the hydraulic calculation method.   This information is the same as
that adopted by ICC for the plumbing code standards pursuant to the IRC
code changes.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Residential systems in California

Are plumbing designers going to start doing hydraulic calculations?



At 11:09 AM 2/20/2009, you wrote:
>Never mind raising eyebrows, how is our industry going to find the
>thousands of design tech's and literally dozens of thousands of
>installers necessary to serve this market?   Plumbing contractors are
>going to start doing this work- both conventional and MP systems -
>regardless of licensing or code or jurisdictional variables.   BECAUSE
>IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE.   And who's to stop them?   Homebuilders
>will appreciate the one-stop shopping and many plumbing contractors
>already have design departments.   I've said this dozens of times
>already in this forum but I'll say it again - it's not rocket science.
>
>
>Steve Leyton
>Protection Design & Consulting
>San Diego, CA
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed
Kramer
>Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:13 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Residential systems in California
>
>For the sprinkler contractors who don't hold a plumbing license: if
>there is
>no BFP, then the entire sprinkler system is potable.  That's work you
no
>longer have access to.  Does that raise any eyebrows?
>
>Ed Kramer
>Littleton, CO
>
>
> > "To address the issue of backflow prevention, one discussion the
> > committee is having is the viability of placing a toilet on the
> > hydraulic end of the sprinkler system ..."
> >
> > Great. Now I have to learn to install toilets. Will this function as
>the
> > inspectors test too? Won't the alarm sound whenever you flush?
>
>
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