Top,

Many of us are looking for the details on this incident. As we find things
out I'll let you know.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Top Myers
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NJFireSafety] Upstate NY Group Home Fire - Sprinkler System
Failure?

John,

This is a very tragic story especially when you consider we have the
technology to avoid what happened.  Do you know yet what the design
criteria may have been?  I do not believe a 13D would be best choice
when residence are not able to exit.  Looking forward to your comments. 


Top Myers
RelMark Group
961 Pottstown Pike
Chester Springs, PA 19425
Office 610-321-2415   Cell 610-952-0965
[email protected]

FYI

John Drucker

Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: [NJFireSafety] Upstate NY Group Home Fire - Sprinkler System
Failure?

 

An important fire that should be studied....

Here is he local newspaper's accounts of the fire. A 13D system?

4 die as plan 'impractical'
State: Evacuation of group home not fast enough to ensure safety of
residents

By RICK KARLIN, Capitol bureau
Click byline for more stories by writer.
First published: Saturday, March 28, 2009

State officials knew it would be "impractical" to evacuate all nine
residents of the Adirondack group home that caught fire a week ago.

Tragically, they were correct: Four of the home's nine severely disabled
residents died in a pre-dawn blaze March 21 at the Office of Mental
Retardation and Developmental Disabilities' Riverview facility in Wells,
Hamilton County.

According to documents obtained by the Times Union, the Riverview
residents
were too frail or immobile to be quickly evacuated in the event of a
fire.
For that reason, the home received the slowest of three ratings ?
"prompt,"
"slow" or "impractical" ? that OMRDD uses to describe how long an
evacuation
should take.

The difficulty of a potential evacuation "was anticipated from the very
beginning," said Patricia Martinelli, an OMRDD lawyer. "That's the
population we built it for."

Only two of the residents had the ability to exit the ranch-style house
under their own power.

An "impractical" rating doesn't mean people can't be evacuated, but
represents an acknowledgement that it couldn't be done quickly enough to
ensure the residents' safety given the number of staff members in a
building.

As a result of the rating, and the fact that four of the residents had
previously lived in the notorious Willowbrook center in Staten Island,
Riverview was equipped with a sprinkler system, which is not required in
all
OMRDD facilities.

Following a 1972 lawsuit over Willowbrook's conditions, former residents
of
the center were accorded extra oversight.

State investigators are continuing to investigate the fire's cause, and
it
remained unclear if the building's network of sprinklers and its water
supply functioned as they are supposed to.

"We have every reason to believe at this point that they did function,"
Martinelli said.

There were two overnight workers at Riverview, and there have been
questions
about whether that was adequate given the immobility of the residents
and
the "impractical'' rating.

"The real issue is what was the evacuation plan, and was it adequate,
including the number of staff?" asked Beth Haroules, an NYCLU lawyer who
represents the former Willowbrook residents.

"Their evacuation plan was inadequate because it clearly failed," she
said.

In some OMRDD facilities, evacuation would be so difficult that
residents
are supposed to remain in the building behind fire doors, and wait for
help.

These so-called "defend in place" policies, which have been used in some
Central New York OMRDD facilities, are controversial.

"It's Russian roulette," said Susan McLaughlin, a former advocate for
the
Willowbrook class of residents.

McLaughlin said she had protested a "defend in place"-style policy that
had
been proposed for a facility in Port Leyden, Lewis County. McLaughlin is
currently suing the state over what she contends is her firing for
acting as
a whistleblower regarding OMRDD problems.

According to OMRDD documents, the Riverview facility, which was less
than a
year old, was inspected by the state Dormitory Authority and underwent
periodic inspections by OMRDD.

For the most part, OMRDD sets its own standards for evacuation protocol.
For
many smaller residences, fire drills call for evacuations within five or
six
minutes. OMRDD oversees its own periodic safety inspections, once the
facility is certified by the state Dormitory Authority.

The emerging details of the fire suggests a scene of horror inside the
building as the two overnight workers tried desperately to get people
out of
a house that was supposed to be relatively fire-resistant.

According to one report, two of those pulled out of the house suffered
rug
burns as workers literally dragged them outside. And two of the dead
supposedly made it to the door of the house, but wandered back toward
their
rooms in a disoriented state.

Eyewitness accounts suggested a fast-moving, all-consuming fire. A woman
walking her dog 2 miles away said she saw a red glow in the sky.

Sen. Elizabeth Little, R-Queensbury, surveyed the Riverview fire scene
hours
after the blaze. Little said she spoke with one of the two employees on
the
11 p.m.-7 a.m. shift, a woman who suffered a dislocated shoulder ?
possibly
from trying to pull people to safety.

"This is a brand-new house, and how it got so out of control so quickly
is
unbelievable," Little said. "Bedrooms had large windows at ground level.
A
capable person could have lifted the window and stepped out."

"It was a sturdy house," added Tony Abrantes, the Lake George builder
who
put up the home. He didn't install the electric or sprinkler system,
though
and the names of those contractors were not immediately available.

First responders wondered if the home had experienced some kind of
explosion
due to the scope of the destruction, Gov. David Paterson said during a
news
conference Friday.

Paterson said he had spoken to both of the Riverview workers on duty the
night of the fire and he was more than satisfied with the performance of
the
state agencies who responded to the fire or are taking part in the
investigation.

James M. Odato contributed. Rick Karlin can be reached at 454-5758 or
[email protected] <mailto:rkarlin%40timesunion.com>  

Fatal fire frustration
State rebuffs town building inspector before group home blaze claims
four
lives

By PAUL NELSON, Staff writer
Click byline for more stories by writer.
First published: Sunday, March 29, 2009

WELLS A building inspector was told by the state to "butt out" after
making
inquiries in the months before the construction of a group home that
caught
fire and killed four disabled residents, Town Supervisor Brian Towers
said.

Today, Towers is questioning the state's decision to refuse an
inspection
and believes the tragedy at the Riverview group home will force state
officials to involve municipalities in the building process.

The state "designed and installed everything" and wasn't required to get
a
building permit from the town, Towers said last week after an emotional
service honoring the fire victims and rescue workers in this close-knit
Adirondack town.

"We had almost zero to do with (the inspections)," he added. "We thought
it
was unusual, and my building inspector tried to work with the state but
was
told in a frank and polite way to butt out and it's not your business."

Also, the town and county never received floor plans or blueprints for
the
facility, which would have been helpful to firefighters and rescuers,
Towers
said.

The investigation into the cause of the March 21 fire, and whether a
sprinkler system malfunctioned, is continuing. Consumer Advisory Board
staff
members were told that an electrical problem is the suspected cause of
the
fire. The building was less than a year old. State officials will not
name
the contractor.

Two overnight workers frantically tried to rescue nine helpless
residents
from the building. Two residents died inside the facility and two died
on
the way to the hospital. The survivors have been moved to a nearby
facility.

According to documents obtained by the Times Union, the state Office of
Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities knew it would be
"impractial" to evacuate all nine residents of the group home in an
emergency, which is why sprinklers were installed.

Nicole Weinstein with the state Office of Mental Retardation and
Developmental Disabilities did not return messages left on her cell
phone
Friday. The workers involved in the rescue have not been permitted to
speak
to the media.

Gov. David Paterson said Friday he is more than satisfied with the
performance of the state agencies who responded to the fire or are
taking
part in the investigation.

Wells Building Inspector Gene Harrington said Friday a person she
believes
was a state project foreman told her the state didn't need a local
building
permit.

"They told us we had no jurisdiction and were not wanted down there,"
she
added. With that, Harrington never returned to the site. The building
opened
in June with no floor plans on file with the town or county.

"It was just for us as a reassurance that the building was good to go,
and
I'm not saying it wasn't, but we want some involvement on the local
level to
make us comfortable with the building," Towers said Wednesday.

Towers, who also responded to the State Route 30 site in his role as a
volunteer firefighter, said the blaze that roared through the home made
it
impossible for fire crews to save lives, even though they arrived on the
scene three minutes after getting the 9-1-1 call.

Towers believes any documents showing the layout of state-owned
buildings
would be helpful to fire crews where split second decisions in an
emergency
can be the difference between life and death.

"That would have been handy for fire line officers to know the layout,
and I
think that will happen," he said. "You would have to know the layout to
be
more effective."

No blueprints or floor plans for Riverview are on file in Hamilton
County.
County Clerk Jane Zarecki on Wednesday showed a reporter only a map of
the
property she pulled from a manila envelope. She checked with the Clerk
of
the Board of Supervisors and also came up empty.

And Wells Fire Chief Bernie Moldt said the state never gave him any
floor
plans, nor did he ask for it. He said Friday, however, that he was in
the
process of obtaining the documents from the director of the two
remaining
homes on Buttermilk Hill Road and Algonquin Drive.

Asked why he didn't request it before now, Moldt said "the state homes
have
their own way of doing things and are controlled by their own people."

The early morning fire in this bucolic Adirondack town of 730 residents
almost certainly will change the way the state does business in the
future,
Towers said. "They will be going back procedurally over how emergency
management people deal with and react to these facilities," he added.
"This
will affect more than just the community of Wells. It will affect every
community that has an intermediate care facility from Plattsburgh to
Long
Island."

While the layout of the group home remained a mystery to Wells
officials,
the four fire victims were not. They and the workers who accompanied
them
were a common sight around this tiny town. Gloria Bonilla, Anthony Vitti
Jr,
Cory Desotelle and Theresa Williams attended local churches and regaled
at
Old Home Days, an annual celebration held the first weekend in August.
The
Rev. Michael Terrell recounted their unique qualities during a memorial
at
Community Hall on Wednesday, punctuating his remarks by telling the
crowd,
"these were our brothers who lost their lives." Terrell also said the
lives
of the four surviving residents, Elaine, Blancha, Andrew and Raffi, have
forever been "changed and disrupted."

The deaths of their housemates have shaken the region.

Jacob Brenan, 15, was staying with his friend James Hoffman, who lives
adjacent to Riverview. By most accounts, James' father, Kenny, a
volunteer
firefighter in Wells, was the first on the scene after the call came in
at
5:30 a.m. March 21. Hoffman has repeatedly declined comment. His family
appeared overcome with grief during the memorial.

Jacob Brenan said he was awakened when Kenny Hoffman dashed downstairs
and
out the door toward Riverview that fateful morning. The boys rushed
upstairs
to the attic window. "There was a lot of smoke and the roof was engulfed
in
flames that were shooting about 15 feet in the air," he said, adding he
could see two people trying to guide residents into a dark blue van. "I
was
scared for them and we were praying," he said.

Wells Councilwoman Roberta Chamberlain said Wednesday the governing body
never had any safety issues with the group home and she had not
discussed
the incident with her colleagues.

Moldt said traumatized rescue personnel had debriefing sessions from a
county stress team.

"Everyone is coming together as a group," he said.



_______________________________________________
Sprinklerforum mailing list
http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
For Technical Assistance, send an email to:
[email protected]

To Unsubscribe, send an email
to:[email protected]
(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)



_______________________________________________
Sprinklerforum mailing list
http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected]

To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected]
(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)


_______________________________________________
Sprinklerforum mailing list
http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected]

To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected]
(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)

Reply via email to