Vince, When the goal is strictly life safety, the Life Safety Code ALWAYS trumps NFPA 13. But when you mix in property protection, NFPA 13 becomes a player and some one (meaning the AHJ) has to decide which one is used for a specific application. An example of this kind of decision would be whether a water curtain must be on the inside or the outside of a proscenium. Another would be whether to include sprinklers in small closets within apartments or dorms. In my opinion, the NFPA Committee made a mistake in the 2007 edition by including some of the NFPA 101 references in the body of the standard (see Chapter 21). We have repaired this by moving all references back to the annex for the proposed 2010 edition. "This is my opinion as an NFPA 13 Committee Member and should not be relied upon as a formal interpretation by the NFPA nor its committees in accordance with the NFPA bylaws."
Cecil Bilbo Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology Champaign, IL ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:58:10 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: NFPA 101 LIFE SAFETY vs NFPA 13 > To: [email protected] > > Vince: > > Applicability of NFPA 101 depends on local or state adoption, and in some > cases licensing and funding. > > For example, health care facilities, like hospitals and nursing homes that > receive Federal reimbursements (Medicare, etc.) are typically licensed by > states, but also have to meet Fed requirements and Joint Commission (JCAHO) > requirements. Both the Feds and JCAHO use the Life Safety Code. Those same > facilities typically also must be built to the local or state building code. > > Another example, the state of Illinois does not have a statewide building > code. That is left up to local jurisdictions. There are plenty of locations, > particularly rural counties and townships, that have none. But, through the > state fire marshal's office, the Life Safety Code applies throughout the > state. In that situation you might building a facility without an AHJ > enforcing a building code, but still need to meet 101. > > In any event where you are looking for guidance on a particular issue where > the applicable building code is silent, referring to 101 when you are meeting > with the AHJ may have some weight. > > Dave > > David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP > Firetech Engineering Incorporated > 2715 Harrison St. > Evanston, IL 60201 > Tel: 847-733-0944 > Fax: 847-866-6255 > > > > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Vince Sabolik wrote: > > > From: Vince Sabolik > Subject: NFPA 101 LIFE SAFETY vs NFPA 13 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 7:05 AM > > > Good morning, forum... > > > Can anyone tell me In what particular code situation would Life > Safety 101 apply, and when it does > would it supercede NFPA 13 insofar as sprinkler - locations, > requirements, etc are concerned? > > thanks, > Vince > > > > Vince Sabolik > Christi Fire Protection, Inc. > 11351 Pearl Road > Strongsville, Ohio 44136 > > T 440 572-7730 F 440 572-7719 Email: > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
