John, And before the advent of indoor plumbing there was no choice in home fire protection except those large hoses and the fire bucket (look to the first episode of HBO's "John Adams" to see the frustration of the bucket brigade and the frozen pump handle). It's amazing how long since we started putting pipes in the house that it's taken us to put sprinkler heads on them. For another interesting look at fire fighting see "Japanese Homes and their Surroundings." Written shortly after the opening of Japan there's a few pages about how each homeowner is expected to keep a hand pump, pike, hose and other fire fighting implements in good repair.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM, John Drucker<[email protected]> wrote: > Ron, You're on the money, heres the story.................. > > "Carl Lowndsbury, Architectural Historian at Williamsburg, VA, reported in > 1989 that they made an interesting discovery. The library at Historical > Williamsburg had an extensive collection of photographs taken of log houses. > The photographs were mostly taken in the 1920's to record these structures > that were rapidly disappearing. > > The mud and wattle chimneys serving these old log houses - the ones that > remained - were almost always leaning away from the house at a precarious > angle. No big deal. Everyone just assumed the foundations were inadequate or > that the mud had deteriorated near the ground causing the chimneys to tilt. > > Then they discovered a letter written by a young woman to her friend in > Boston at Christmas time. "The chimney had caught fire", she wrote, "and > Father ran outside and kicked out the support so the chimney fell over and > did not catch the house on fire." Of course! Now they understood why all > those chimneys were leaning. They were built that way so they could be > toppled over if they caught on fire. It was a fire protection strategy." > > With that said................ > > "Back in the day when ones home caught fire the fire department would rush > over and drag large hoses into the home to put out the fire. Today piping is > run throughout the house, connected to the home water supply and heat > sensitive devices call sprinkler heads open to control the fire in the early > stages preventing loss of the home, the occupants and firefighters. It is the > new fire protection strategy." > > John Drucker Jr CET > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector > Borough of Red Bank, NJ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: 39% How do people sleep at night. > > John, > > I think it was Boston that first made it illegal to build chimneys from > sticks covered in mud. There WAS opposition. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, John Drucker<[email protected]> wrote: >> Greg, et. al. >> >> Opposition is not limited to fire protection. While accepted today as >> standard faire, smoke alarms particularly the current requirement >> hardwired interconnected type, were initially opposed as added cost. >> Likewise, GFCI's and most recently AFCI's (not so long ago Ohio >> entertained reverting back to 2005 NEC on this issue) on the >> electrical side, Backflow prevention (remember how NJ reverted back to >> 2003 NSPC on >> 10.5 RPZ) on the plumbing side, windborne debris, hurricane resistance >> and flooding on the building side. We just happen to be in the >> limelight but others have been there as well, welcome to the lifeboat >> keep paddling. >> >> If its worth attaining its worth the fight to attain it. When you feel >> down think about what it must have been like when the NEC, NSPC or >> BOCA NBC where first introduced. >> >> John Drucker >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg >> Schulze >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:01 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: 39% How do people sleep at night. >> >> When plumbing became a requirement for homes, I wonder it if received >> this much opposition. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas >> Reinhardt >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:22 AM >> To: '[email protected]' >> Subject: 39% How do people sleep at night. >> >> >> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link >> attachments: >> >> Shortcut to: >> http://www.wlns.com/Global/story.asp?S=10672640&nav=menu25_2 >> >> >> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent >> sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. 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