Absolutely. He's the one who is delaying the coordination drawings, his part of which would be needed to fab and install the duct he's now hanging. He's gone off and started his installation at his own risk, and you simply walk into the coordination meeting with a blind eye toward that and coordinate the job as you normally would. He must cooperate, and if (when) he mentions he already installed this area at these locations, simply say "The specifications require you to produce the coordination drawings to start the process we are all now beginning. When we are all in agreement about how we fit all of this above the ceiling, we will all sign off on it and work can commence. You elected to install ductwork in advance of this process at your own risk. If it can stay without hurting the rest of us, you might luck out. If you installed ductwork that impacts us, then you are a victim of a situation you created for yourself and it does not release you from your contractual obligations to fully cooperate in the coordination process with the other trades. If I had run my sprinkler piping right under all your roof openings in advance of this coordination, would you hesitate to echo what I am saying to you? Of course not."
Or "Can you show us all the contractually required signed-off coordination drawings you're using? Perhaps you can make this a very short meeting!" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Zimmerman Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Renegade HVAC Contractor If it is in the specs that all subs need to agree on and then sign off on drawings before any work can be fabricated or installed then I would just bring the spec to the meeting and show it to him and the GC. Not much for him to argue about there. If no one is going to follow the spec then this project could turn into a free-for-all very quickly. Jim On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]>wrote: > I could use a little ammo for an upcoming coordination meeting I have on > Monday. We are working on a pretty big school and the HVAC sub (per the > spec) is suppose to be spearheading a set of coordination drawings that all > subs need to agree on and then sigh off on before "any work can be > fabricated or installed". These drawings still have not been completed and > are actually not even close to being done. > > Here's where it gets good: > > * He has already begun installing his duct and has actually completed > a couple wings. (without the approved coordination drawings) > * He wants to run all his ductwork 8" above ceiling throughout and > says sprinkler pipe needs to run above him, "that's industry standard" !! > * He says he's never heard of ductwork being run through the joist, > it's always the sprinkler lines that run up high. (this is in areas with > ceiling tiles) > > I could go on and on but I think you get the point, what I would love to > have is some hard facts/references that I can provide at the meeting so > this > doesn't turn into a bigger pissing contest than it already has. I don't > dare > release our pipe for fab without the drawings being signed off but in the > mean time he is installing away! > > > Regards, > > <http://www.firstdefensefire.com/> > > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.12940 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected]<to%3asprinklerforum-requ...@fire sprinkler.org> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
