Please take me off the email list. -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Aug 17, 2009 1:00 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Sprinklerforum Digest, Vol 46, Issue 16 > >Send Sprinklerforum mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Sprinklerforum digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Main Drain (Jay Jay Blocker) > 2. RE: Main Drain (Cliff Whitfield) > 3. RE: Main Drain (Todd Williams) > 4. Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers (Jay White) > 5. Re: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers (Sal Izzo (TECH- 103)) > 6. RE: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers (Steve Leyton) > 7. Re: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers (Sal Izzo (TECH- 103)) > 8. Re: Main Drain (John Denhardt) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:46:12 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jay Jay Blocker <[email protected]> >Subject: Main Drain >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >I found where parts that dont affect the operation of a system dont have to be >listed.? Is there anywhere that says main drain piping has to be metal? > >J > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:50:27 -0500 >From: "Cliff Whitfield" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Main Drain >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >J, > >I think the big issue with non-metallic piping would be if it will meet code >from a building code standpoint. There are some cases where plastic is not >acceptable in an exposed condition. Check with your local plumbing and/or >building inspector. > >Cliff Whitfield, SET >Fire Design, Inc. > >[email protected] >www.fire-design.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Jay >Blocker >Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:46 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Main Drain > >I found where parts that dont affect the operation of a system dont have to >be listed.? Is there anywhere that says main drain piping has to be metal? > >J > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:29:00 -0400 >From: Todd Williams <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Main Drain >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >I've seen it used a few times (CPVC), but follow Cliff's advice and >check with the local authority > > > >At 08:50 PM 8/16/2009, you wrote: >>J, >> >>I think the big issue with non-metallic piping would be if it will meet code >>from a building code standpoint. There are some cases where plastic is not >>acceptable in an exposed condition. Check with your local plumbing and/or >>building inspector. >> >>Cliff Whitfield, SET >>Fire Design, Inc. >> >>[email protected] >>www.fire-design.com >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Jay >>Blocker >>Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:46 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Main Drain >> >>I found where parts that dont affect the operation of a system dont have to >>be listed. Is there anywhere that says main drain piping has to be metal? >> >>J >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >Todd G. Williams, PE >Fire Protection Design/Consulting >Stonington, Connecticut >www.fpdc.com >860.535.2080 > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:16:07 -0500 >From: "Jay White" <[email protected]> >Subject: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I know there is a horizontal sidewall that covers extra hazard grp II, but >is their a horizontal sidewall that covers group "A" plastics? > >Jay White >Estimator/Design Manager >Dynamic Fire Protection >1807 Hwy. 25 South >Starkville, MS 39759 >Phone: 662-324-1550 >Fax: 662-324-1545 >Cell: 662-312-2426 > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:02:56 -0400 >From: "Sal Izzo (TECH- 103)" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers >To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > > <961829597.260711.1250517798355.javamail....@bda053.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >There is not. > >Regards, > >Salvatore Izzo PE >Mgr-Tech Services >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jay White <[email protected]> > >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:16:07 >To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >Subject: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers > > >I know there is a horizontal sidewall that covers extra hazard grp II, but >is their a horizontal sidewall that covers group "A" plastics? > >Jay White >Estimator/Design Manager >Dynamic Fire Protection >1807 Hwy. 25 South >Starkville, MS 39759 >Phone: 662-324-1550 >Fax: 662-324-1545 >Cell: 662-312-2426 > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:26:48 -0700 >From: "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > <6d5a59f81dd82b448ceddaf9db6cfeb99f4...@server.protectiondesign.local> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I think so. Reliable makes a sidewall storage sprinkler, but you'll >have to check the TDS or contact RASCO to confirm specific applications >if any. > >Steve Leyton >Protection Design & Consulting >San Diego, CA > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay White >Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:16 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers > >I know there is a horizontal sidewall that covers extra hazard grp II, >but >is their a horizontal sidewall that covers group "A" plastics? > >Jay White >Estimator/Design Manager >Dynamic Fire Protection >1807 Hwy. 25 South >Starkville, MS 39759 >Phone: 662-324-1550 >Fax: 662-324-1545 >Cell: 662-312-2426 > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >[email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 4341 (20090817) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 4342 (20090817) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:49:17 -0400 >From: "Sal Izzo (TECH- 103)" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers >To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > > <516375353.265123.1250524159041.javamail....@bda053.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >The MBEC-14 can be used as an extra hazard hsw spinkler for occupancies having >misc. storage only; it is not a storage sprinkler, nor can it be used for Grp >A Plastics. > >Regards, > >Salvatore Izzo PE >Mgr-Tech. Services >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Leyton <[email protected]> > >Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:26:48 >To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers > > >I think so. Reliable makes a sidewall storage sprinkler, but you'll >have to check the TDS or contact RASCO to confirm specific applications >if any. > >Steve Leyton >Protection Design & Consulting >San Diego, CA > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay White >Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:16 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Horizontal Sidewall Sprinklers > >I know there is a horizontal sidewall that covers extra hazard grp II, >but >is their a horizontal sidewall that covers group "A" plastics? > >Jay White >Estimator/Design Manager >Dynamic Fire Protection >1807 Hwy. 25 South >Starkville, MS 39759 >Phone: 662-324-1550 >Fax: 662-324-1545 >Cell: 662-312-2426 > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >[email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 4341 (20090817)__________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 4342 (20090817)__________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:11:56 -0400 >From: "John Denhardt" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Main Drain >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > > <287576106-1250472413-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-6470558...@bxe1225.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > >No, not in NFPA 13. > >John >Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jay Jay Blocker <[email protected]> > >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:46:12 >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Main Drain > > >I found where parts that dont affect the operation of a system dont have to be >listed.? Is there anywhere that says main drain piping has to be metal? > >J > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > >End of Sprinklerforum Digest, Vol 46, Issue 16 >**********************************************
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