Mike,

as John points out always separate building lingo from real estate
lingo when talking about these things.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:36 PM, John Drucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve's correct.
>
> The ownership arrangement does not change the use group. By definition
> townhouses are attached, albeit separated by party walls (firewalls on a lot
> line), single family dwellings and not multiple dwellings. Like single and
> two family dwellings, townhouses are provided for in International
> Residential Code (IRC). Like single and two family dwellings fire sprinklers
> are facilitated by NFPA-13D or IRC P2904.
>
> Often we hear the terms condominium, association, rental and timeshare used
> to describe the use with regards to the building code when in fact those
> terms are merely describing the forms of ownership.
>
> Lastly for those working in NJ. The NJUCC has set a height requirement for
> unprotected wood frame (VB) construction of 2 stories. To exceed that
> requires either a) Protected Wood Frame construction (VA) or a supervised
> NFPA-13R sprinkler system, again note a supervised NFPA-13R sprinkler
> system.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> John Drucker, CET
> Fire Protection Subcode Official
> Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector
> New Jersey
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Townhouse or Apartment Building
>
> Ask your local building official.   Were the SFD's subdivided or are
> they still townhouses that are now rented out?   Seems to me that if you
> haven't changed the use and occupancy, then it doesn't matter whether
> the tenants own the dwelling or not.
>
> Steve Leyton
> Protection Design & Consulting
> San Diego, CA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Cabral
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Townhouse or Apartment Building
>
> Hypothetical Question. . .  A builder constructs what was intended to be
> 3 story townhouses. 13D is applied under  2010 13D Section  3.3.10. The
> units don't sell and are rented out. If you rent a townhouse complex is
> it an apartment building? Would 13R system be required?
>
> Mike Cabral
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