Mike, as John points out always separate building lingo from real estate lingo when talking about these things.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:36 PM, John Drucker <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve's correct. > > The ownership arrangement does not change the use group. By definition > townhouses are attached, albeit separated by party walls (firewalls on a lot > line), single family dwellings and not multiple dwellings. Like single and > two family dwellings, townhouses are provided for in International > Residential Code (IRC). Like single and two family dwellings fire sprinklers > are facilitated by NFPA-13D or IRC P2904. > > Often we hear the terms condominium, association, rental and timeshare used > to describe the use with regards to the building code when in fact those > terms are merely describing the forms of ownership. > > Lastly for those working in NJ. The NJUCC has set a height requirement for > unprotected wood frame (VB) construction of 2 stories. To exceed that > requires either a) Protected Wood Frame construction (VA) or a supervised > NFPA-13R sprinkler system, again note a supervised NFPA-13R sprinkler > system. > > Hope that helps, > > John Drucker, CET > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector > New Jersey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Townhouse or Apartment Building > > Ask your local building official. Were the SFD's subdivided or are > they still townhouses that are now rented out? Seems to me that if you > haven't changed the use and occupancy, then it doesn't matter whether > the tenants own the dwelling or not. > > Steve Leyton > Protection Design & Consulting > San Diego, CA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike > Cabral > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Townhouse or Apartment Building > > Hypothetical Question. . . A builder constructs what was intended to be > 3 story townhouses. 13D is applied under 2010 13D Section 3.3.10. The > units don't sell and are rented out. If you rent a townhouse complex is > it an apartment building? Would 13R system be required? > > Mike Cabral > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4574 (20091104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4574 (20091104) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Bates Technical College Tacoma, WA Member: SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA, WSAFM _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
