Cloud ceiling?

At 11:58 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
>Depending on the conditions of the project in regards to an 
>underwriter or other AHJ requirement, contents such as piping, 
>wiring, HVAC equipment, ducting, etc. could be combustible and drive 
>an underwriter to require above ceiling protection due to the 
>combustible loading of the contents, not the construction of the 
>building itself.
>
>Any fuel fired equipment above the ceiling?  Potential junk storage space?
>
>
>Craig L. Prahl, CET
>Fire Protection Specialist
>Mechanical Department
>CH2MHILL
>Lockwood Greene
>1500 International Drive
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
>Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:48 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Under/Over Sprinkler
>
>Above and below is the usual slang for what I'd think he means.
>
>And maybe the contract dwgs showed above and below, referred to it 
>as under/over, and maybe this is a plumber who doesn't know you 
>don't need uprights in noncombustible spaces, maybe the AE doesn't 
>care, they're on the docs and its plan/spec, or ???
>
>glc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Zimmerman
>Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:37 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Under/Over Sprinkler
>
>Has anyone seen/used the term under/over sprinkler on a set plans? 
>Someone in my office has a set of plans where the contractor called 
>out the sprinklers as under/over sprinklers. At first I thought 
>maybe it was describing pendant sprinklers below the ceiling and 
>upright above, protecting a combustible concealed space. However, 
>the construction noncombustible (concrete floors and gyp ceilings).
>The only details on the plans are for a concealed sprinkler on a 
>return bend and a detail for an upright sprinkler.
>I'm sure they will be contacting the contractor about the term but I 
>was just curious if anyone here had seen the term.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
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