Thank you for the clarification Roland! Damien Shannon.
QED Sprinkler Designs, Inc. 2836 N. Drake Ave, Unit: Coach House Chicago, IL. 60618 Phone: (773) 704 2571 Fax: (866) 308 1367 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Room Design vs. Adjacent Hazards The example is focused on the big question of the size of the remote area but it applies OH-II and EH-I and defines the boundary line between them. Since that is what drives the installation criteria, it's all aspects of the design basis. Roland On Mar 23, 2010, at 1:48 AM, Damien Shannon wrote: > Roland, > > Since you were there:), could you please clarify the intent of the > committee > for 11.1.2 in regards to spacing? The verbiage in the standard states > '...the required sprinkler protection...' which literally would seem > to > include all requirements of the sprinkler protection, i.e. spacing and > hydraulic criteria. But since it is in the Design Approaches chapter > (aka, > hydraulic approaches chapter) I am a little unsure if the statement is > indeed intended to relate to the spacing and hydraulic criteria or > only to > relate to the hydraulic criteria. > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > Damien Shannon. > > QED Sprinkler Designs, Inc. > 2836 N. Drake Ave, > Unit: Coach House > Chicago, IL. 60618 > Phone: (773) 704 2571 > Fax: (866) 308 1367 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Room Design vs. Adjacent Hazards > > the problem is that you are reading it with a interpretation in mind > from a quick initial read. Ed hit it on the nose although using EH > and LH is a better example since the size of the RA differs. As > others have said - read the Annex which provides examples. > > Granted when we said (we being the TC but I was on the task group that > developed this concept in 99 - look in the HAndbook not the standard) > SPRINKLER PROTECTION it does imply the presence of sprinklers, We > should have said sprinkler CRITERIA. > > It does not replace the Room Design method. If it isn't crystal clear > after studying the annex, give me a call. > > Roland > > Since I invoked the name of the omnipotent TC, I should chant the TC > member mantra - this is not to b considered a formal interpretation of > NFPA or its TC. Not to be equated with the infamous lines - We're > from the federal government. We're here to help you. > > On Mar 22, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Richardson, R wrote: > >> Thanks for the thoughts. >> >> However, the way section 11.1.12 is written, there is no pointer to >> the room design requirements as being applicable as well. >> >> In effect you seem to be saying that section 11.1.2 is not allowed >> unless each side of the wall is large enough to facilitate a full >> operating area (with allowable reductions of course) per NFPA13. >> >> I am having trouble reaching that conclusion based on the language >> in the standard. >> >> Intent versus what was actually written I suppose, but usually in my >> world the actual language overrides the intent, except in the case >> of imminent life safety hazard, likely not the case here. >> >> Rich >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4966 (20100322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4966 (20100322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4967 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4967 (20100323) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
