So where does it say that these are not AWWA pipe size groove fittings? (See
Vic style 31 or 307 couplings and 100-c, 10-c,11-c,12-c,13-c, or 20-c,
33-c,35-c,----------) All of these are AWWA listed to meet underground water
supplies as ref. in the front of 24.

Just because we think of grooved in Iron Pipe Sizes doesn't mean that 24
thinks of them in IPS and not AWWA Ductile Iron Pipe sizes.

A groove fitting is a Groove fitting until it's not quite all grooved
fittings.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Herrick
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Victaulic OK'ed for underground service

Per NFPA 24 NFPA 24, Standard for the Installation of Private Fire Service
Mains and Their Appurtenances, 2010 Edition

Chapter 10: 


10.3.1 Threaded Pipe and Fittings.   All threaded steel pipe and fittings
shall have threads cut in accordance with ASME B1.20.1.


10.3.2 Groove Joining Methods.   Pipes joined with grooved fittings shall be
joined by a listed combination of fittings, gaskets, and grooves.

10.8.1 General.   

10.8.1.1*    All tees, plugs, caps, bends, reducers, valves, and hydrant
branches shall be restrained against movement by using thrust blocks in
accordance with 10.8.2 or restrained joint systems in accordance with
10.8.3.



10.8.1.2    Piping with fused, threaded, grooved, or welded joints shall not
require additional restraining, provided that such joints can pass the
hydrostatic test of 10.10.2.2 without shifting of piping or leakage in
excess of permitted amounts.



10.8.1.3 Steep Grades.   On steep grades, mains shall be additionally
restrained to prevent slipping.


10.8.1.3.1    Pipe shall be restrained at the bottom of a hill and at any
turns (lateral or vertical).



10.8.1.3.2    The restraint specified in 10.8.1.3.1 shall be to natural rock
or to suitable piers built on the downhill side of the bell.



10.8.1.3.3    Bell ends shall be installed facing uphill.



10.8.1.3.4    Straight runs on hills shall be restrained as determined by
the design engineer.

FRANK J. HERRICK

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