So if it is a wall, what is the T-rating question?  NFPA 101 does not
require a T-rating, only a 1-hour F-rating.

Some firestops can give you a T-rating with metallic pipe by using a wrap
strip or other device, but usually it is only a 1/2 hour or sometimes 3/4
hour rating.  .  There may be a 1-hour T-rated firestop with metal pipe
penetrant out there but how to find it.  If you end up having to provide
one the best bet is to contact a firestop mfr and see what they can
provide.

John Hoffman P.E. | Fire Protection Engineer | Facility Engineering
Services, KCP, LLC - Burns & McDonnell Engineering | National Nuclear
Security Administration's Kansas City Plant | Operated by Honeywell FM&T |
2000 E. 95th St | Kansas City, MO  64131 | ph 816-997-7213 |
[email protected]


                                                                                
                                       
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  Date:       09/01/2010 10:37 AM                                               
                                       
                                                                                
                                       
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It is a wall.

Mike Brown
Project Designer
Sunland Fire Protection, Inc.
1218 Elon Place
High Point, NC 27263
[email protected]
Business:  336-886-7027 Ext. #140
Fax:  336-886-7024



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: T-Rating of Fire stop

NFPA 101 only requires a 1-hour T-rating in a fire-rated horizontal
assembly.  There aren't that many places that utilize fire-rated horizontal
assemblies.  Is that what you are penetrating?  Don't need the T-rating for
a regular fire-rated floor if the pipe is not in direct contact with
combustibles.    See 8.3.5.1.4 of NFPA 101 2009 edition.

John Hoffman P.E. | Fire Protection Engineer | Facility Engineering
Services, KCP, LLC - Burns & McDonnell Engineering | National Nuclear
Security Administration's Kansas City Plant | Operated by Honeywell FM&T |
2000 E. 95th St | Kansas City, MO  64131 | ph 816-997-7213 |
[email protected]



  From:       "Brown, Mike" <[email protected]>


  To:         "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>

  Date:       09/01/2010 10:03 AM


  Subject:    T-Rating of Fire stop


  Sent by:    [email protected]







We have a project that our fire stop T-rating is in question. (Gov't
project) They referenced the UFC 2-1.1 which then sends you to NFPA 101.
Basically we need a T-rating of 1 hour. Has anyone had this before if
so....which brand fire stop did you use?

Mike Brown
Project Designer
Sunland Fire Protection, Inc.
1218 Elon Place
High Point, NC 27263
[email protected]
Business:  336-886-7027 Ext. #140
Fax:  336-886-7024


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