Rahe, That was funny. Mark, you set Rahe up for a joke on a day that needed one. Coll.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I guess it's just me,me,me. > > > > Rahe Loftin > Sent from my Blackberry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: me > Sent: 09/22/2010 09:34 PM GMT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Anti Freeze for commercial > > > > Y. > Mark Eckard > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Top Myers" <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:26:58 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Anti Freeze for commercial > > Good points on both put in suggestions to code to consider if you have a > suggestion you feel needs to be in code. > > On testing we are arguing against adding concentrate to premix. We are > told by chemical company it should not degrade but I would prefer to > hear from all you users experience with premix. > > > Top Myers > RelMark Group > 961 Pottstown Pike > Chester Springs, PA 19425 > 610-321-2415 X-219 Cell 610-952-0965 > [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Anti Freeze for commercial > > First off for those of you with these "Good Ideas" NFPA 13,13D &13R are > still accepting proposals until 10/1/2010. > > Next question, the consensus seems to be Pre-mixed OK? When we require > testing of antifreeze solutions, and in 13D re-mixing to maintain > concentrations, there must be some separation going on, right? So how > will > we deal with higher concentrations that may occur over time? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George > Church > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Anti Freeze for commercial > > We've likewise used AF to be able to install CPVC in existing attics > where > steel would be a nightmare, or other things like avoiding 30% increase > in > MRA off a limited water supply. > I'm not a registered design professional, but ones I've talked to about > this > seem to agree the premix is fine. > > Items to watch for in addition to the obvious concentration are high > pressure which leads to smaller droplets and existence of > devices/equipment > with open flames that could provide the spark like the unit heater in > NJ, or > coking facilities. Yes, Roland, NFPA limiting it to residential missed > restaurants which could have AF, have done them, but in PA we're using > premix so we believe we don't have a problem revealed in Ph 1 or 2 > testing, > and we're watching for the release of further testing to prove to the > point > NFPA desires that we continue to have a high level of confidence in the > premix concentrations. > > glc > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: AFSA, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, NFSA, AFAA, ASEE, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
