I've always read it to apply to any pump arrangement even if just a single pump would do. The text says that the demand shall be meet with the largest pump out of service. If you have just one pump - THAT is the largest pump so it must be taken out of service. Thus two pumps are required.

Roland

On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:30 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

Are you talking about redundant primary fire pumps or redundant foam concentrate pumps?

Redundant foam concentrate pumps are in 6.2.7.

Redundant primary fire pumps aren't specifically listed as being required per 409. However since many of these installations can have large fire flow demands there are often multiple pumps installed. When that occurs the pumps may or may not all be of equal size. 409-6.2.10.8.2 states that "The total pumping capacity shall be such that maximum demand can be met with the largest fire pump out of service." This assumes a multi-pump installation.

I had a project last year where there was a 2000 gpm electric and a 4000 gpm diesel. This setup did not meet 6.2.10.8.2 since the electric could only do half of the diesel and could not meet demand of the largest flow on the site if the diesel was out of service. Now some EOR/AHJ types might read this and deem that it infers redundant pumps as being required based on this wording.



Craig L. Prahl, CET

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