Ron, It would be interesting to take a pole and see if anyone on this forum
has actually used or seen smoke of any kind ever being successfully used to
locate leaks in a dry system, years ago we tried it to no avail, I think it
would depend on the size of the system and the quantity of smoke. Anyone
ever seen it work or is it an urban legend? Perhaps we could contact
Mythbusters and have them give it a try to verify it.

Bill Cunningham
Plumbco Inc

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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Testing for Air Leaks in Dry Fire Sprinkler System

I once had one that thought a flare would be a good idea, Charles.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Charles Thurston <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello rongreenman,
>
> Oh I know, But I have had customers suggest it as cheaper than using 
> the cold smoke.
>
> Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 11:48:59 PM, you wrote:
>
> > That's hot smoke Charles and not good for the system. Leak detection
> smoke
> > is cold.
>
>
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Charles Thurston 
> ><[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> >> Hello rongreenman,
>
> >> Or the colored smoke bombs from the fireworks store (Use at your 
> >> own
> risk).
>
> >> Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 10:19:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> >> > Colored smoke is like the stuff the military uses in smoke grenades.
>
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_testing_(mechanical)
>
>
> >> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Forest Wilson <
> [email protected]
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> >> Check the pressure switch before you start using colored smoke
>
>
>
> >> >> On 2/12/2014 5:06 PM, Douglas Hicks wrote:
>
> >> >>> Tell us more about the colored smoke.  I have not heard of that
> before.
>
> >> >>> -----Original Message----- From: rongreenman .
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:32 AM
> >> >>> To: [email protected]
> >> >>> Subject: Re: Testing for Air Leaks in Dry Fire Sprinkler System
>
> >> >>> Drop the air and pump in colored smoke and you can see the leaks.
>
>
> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, James McHugh <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> >>> wrote:
>
> >> >>>  Hi All,
> >> >>>> A friend of mine has a busy (loud) automobile bay with a dry 
> >> >>>> fire sprinkler system which is located near a highway.  He has
> complained
> >> that
> >> >>>> the compressor is running too often. I explained that usually 
> >> >>>> means
> >> air
> >> >>>> leaks. He posed the question of what various ways can they 
> >> >>>> detect
> air
> >> >>>> leaks. Can members of the forum reply with as many ways as
> possible?
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