Correct. But only the fittings are black, the pipe is galvanized. Jimmy Waite, CET - Design Manager Fire & Life Safety America- Raleigh District 7711 Welborn Street, Suite 103 Raleigh, NC 27615 Office: 919-872-3250 Cell: 919-868-3546 Fax: 919-877-5775 www.flsamerica.com
-----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:46 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings You have never been able to use a C factor of 120 for black steel pipe on a dry system. > From: jdwa...@flsamerica.com > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:42:01 +0000 > > What I was looking for (and thought I'd seen before) was that even if I used > black steel fitting on galvanized pipe I could still calculate the system > using a C factor of 120. I thought I remembered seeing it way back in 2002, > and was trying to trace it forward. > > Jimmy Waite, CET - Design Manager > Fire & Life Safety America- Raleigh District > 7711 Welborn Street, Suite 103 > Raleigh, NC 27615 > Office: 919-872-3250 > Cell: 919-868-3546 > Fax: 919-877-5775 > www.flsamerica.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > Steve Mackinnon > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:35 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings > > For dry and double interlocked pre action systems, black pipe is c of 100. > Galv is c of 120. > For wet and single interlocked pre action systems, all steel piping is 120. > > Steven MacKinnon > Fire Protection Division > Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. > 850 South Second Street > Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 > Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > Aaron Peck > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:32 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings > > I got the 2010, 13 code on my iPhone but I'm still useless trying to find > anything. Give me the book and I can turn right too it. Go figure. > > It may have been 100 before, did they change it in 2013? > > Sent from my iPhone > Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > Skype +1(202)407-9079 > Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:16 PM, John Denhardt <jdenha...@stricklandfire.com> > > wrote: > > > > Not with the 2013 edition of 13. Changed all steel pipping to 100 for dry > > and preaction systems. > > > > Thanks, > > John August Denhardt P.E. > > > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:06 AM, "Aaron Peck" <amp...@me.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you use black pipe is a reduction of your pipe C-Factor. I believe it's > >> reduced to 120... but I don't have the code in front of me. > >> > >> Galvanized pipe lets you retain you C-Factor. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > >> Skype +1(202)407-9079 > >> Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > >> > >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:54 PM, John Denhardt <jdenha...@stricklandfire.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Why will it not be allowed? No restrictions. Used to be done all the time > >>> especially with Navy projects. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> John August Denhardt P.E. > >>> > >>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:27 AM, "James D. Waite" <jdwa...@flsamerica.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Didn't there used to be a section in 13 that specifically allowed black > >>>> steel fittings with galvanized pipe on dry systems? 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