That my read on it also, I was told to pose the question, I'm just an old guy with 36 years' experience, 122 day from retirement. What do I know?
Richard L. Mote ET Design Manager Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hill Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: ESFR & Sprinkler in Racks. 16.3.3.2 does not say you can use ESFR with solid shelves as long as in rack protection is required. I would say that if there are solid shelves, ESFR sprinklers are out. Mike Hill -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: ESFR & Sprinkler in Racks. Here is the scenario; New warehouse addition to an existing sprinklered automotive parts distribution warehouse. Peak height = 36'-1", Rack height = 28'. Addition was originally specified for an ESFR system with racks. They came back and said they wanted to be able to store small quantities of flammable liquids. The insurance reviewer said OK add 1 level of in rack sprinkler where the flammable liquid storage would be. The customer said, we don't know it may move around depending on how much we have at any given time, so install sprinkler in all the racks. Yesterday I get the final rack layout drawings which call for solid steel shelving at the 12' and 28' levels. I responded that per NFPA 13, 2007 (the current recognized addition in PA) 16.3.3.2 you can't use ESFR with solid shelving. Now the customer wants to know. If we install in-racks at the 27' and 11' levels could we still use ESFR at the roof? (sort of defeats the purpose but it's not my money)I have spent the last hour going through chapters 16 & 17. I can't find anything that say you could do that. But I also haven't found anything that says you can't other than 16 .3.3.2 & 17.2.3.1.1. At this point I want to hang my hat on that and say no we can't. However I may be missing something so I thought I would throw it out for discussion. Richard Mote ET Design Manager Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407 Middleburg, PA 17842 P- 877-324-ROWE F- 570-937-6335 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.rowesprinkler.com<http://www.rowesprinkler.com/> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
