No.  It is occupied.

There are all 1 story units on Level 1-3. Level 4 has 1½ story units. 1000 sq ft on 4th floor, then go up a set of stairs that is internal to the unit. The mezzanine/loft is about 400 sq ft. It will have a bedroom and living space up there as well as a bathroom.

The architect has put confusing notes on the plan. No one can figure it out. They are conflicting about NFPA 13 then 13R then standpipes, then no standpipes. He has been asked to clarify, but it is taking longer than the builder wants. They are just trying to get some ideas to know how it may go.

If this is a story that would drive standpipes, would it also not drive the building to an NFPA 13 system since it would then be 5 stories. If the mezzanine/loft does not count as a story, then it would be applicable for 13R. They are under 2010 edition. But, if the mezz/loft does not count as a story to drive it to 13, then does it count as an elevation to trigger standpipes? Lot's of questions. Not many answers yet.

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On 4/22/2015 9:17 AM, Matthew J Willis wrote:
Sounds like an attic, not a loft.
It will not be occupied right?


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Matt


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Standpipes

Travis,
I can't quote code. We had the same thing and the City required Standpipes.

David Autry

Meininger Fire Protection
2521 West L Street, Suite 5
Lincoln, NE 68522
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:38 AM
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Subject: Standpipes

Does a loft/mezzanine count toward the height to require a standpipe?

Example: 4th floor is 29'-4" above lowest level of fire department access.
So standpipe would not be required.

But these units have a loft/mezzanine that will be obviously above the 30'. The 
only way to access the loft is from a stair in the unit on the fourth floor.

So standpipes yes or no? It is an R-2 occupancy.

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