The friction loss must be huge for 20' of rolled up hose? 

David Canham
Fire Systems Solutions

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> On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Pat Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I was in PA for training at Victaulic this spring and they mentioned a 
> specialized sprinkler drop that they had produced for Apple in one of their 
> 'dream buildings'. The plan for the building is to have a ceiling that will 
> move up and down, I do not recall what was stated but I think it was in the 
> range of 15-20 feet. Sprinkler protection below the ceiling was of course 
> dilemma for this architect's exotic idea. 
> 
> Victaulic came up with a solution that was described as a reel set up using 
> braided flexible hose, similar to an air hose reel in a shop. They've either 
> gone through testing for listing or where in the process of listing it back 
> in April. I've never laid my eyes on it but you might want to reach out to 
> your Victaulic rep to see what they know. I'm sure there is significant $$$ 
> involved but it may be a great fit; that is of course if the customer has 
> pockets as deep as Apple's - LOL.
> 
> Pat Thompson
> ATS Alaska
> Direct: 907-375-4176
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Steven Cook
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:39 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: FW: Theater Acoustic Panels 
> 
> I am reaching out to the forum to see if anyone has encountered this 
> situation previously, and if so how they handled the issue.
> 
> We are working on a theater project that has retractable numerous 5' x 5' 
> acoustic panels, that may at any given time be located anywhere from entirely 
> above the sprinklers (recessed into the ceiling) to 15 feet below the 
> sprinklers.   These panels, along with lighting and sound equipment are moved 
> via cable hoists.  
> 
> The engineer has suggested options including: retracting the panels 
> automatically upon water flow alarm, fusible links on one side of the panels 
> so they would drop into a vertical position, and the installation of a deluge 
> system utilizing sidewall sprinklers located below the lowest height of the 
> panels.
> 
> There are obvious issues with all the above: moving the panels and equipment 
> while the theater is potentially occupied is not a desirable option and 
> likely has unacceptable time delays, similar concerns with the fusible links, 
> and the consequences of an accidental deluge system discharge in this 
> building  would be catastrophic.  Additionally the space is too large to be 
> covered with sidewall sprinklers along the perimeter.   
> 
> As I see it, the best (and maybe only) option is to reduce the panel size 
> down to less than 4 foot square.
> 
> Any similar experience or advice?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Steve Cook
> Operations Manger
> TG Gallagher 
> 
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