VESDA is a huge increase in reliability.  You should see the barrels of bad
or discarded smokes around some of the preaction systems we do not to
mention tripping the valve 12-14 times just so every detector is tested
annually.  

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It would be interesting to hear someone else's experiences, but for the
majority of these systems, we are parsing " bad" reliability from "quite
bad" reliabiliity.  From what I find, parsing these systems is a fine line
that I would rather decline--than devine-and-design.

Many of these "multi-dimensional, layered" systems offer attractive
engineering-approaches that pencil out on paper and make for good rhetorical
bling on a power-point presentation.  But after 15, often 10, sometimes even
5 years from commissioning, an unacceptably large fraction of these systems
are impaired.  Unless the client has a knowledgable, dedicated and motivated
in-house maintenance staff, keeping these systems in service becomes a
cash-cow, usually for the fire alarm contractor, but the sprinkler
contractor too.

My first choice would be wet-pipe, zero-interlock and try to maximize the
use of sidewalls.  If the facility has 24/7 staffing I would recommend
VESDA with staff trained on occupant-use extinguishers (CAF).   If the
assets are uber-sensitive to water--and can skirt the OSHA regs-- consider a
hypoxic air system.

After approximately 12 years, many of the fire alarm components will no
longer be supported, so figure into the cost, a new fire alarm system is
likely every 15/20 years.


Scot Deal
Excelsior Fire/Risk Engineering
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