You will not be using CO2 or Dry Chemical in a potentially occupied room.  
Scratch those off the list.

NOVEC 1230 is becoming a more environmentally friendly choice.  I have also 
seen Argonite (IG55) becoming another viable option replacing FM-200.

I've never seen CAF used for electrical rooms, too much equipment to maintain 
plus not many trained on the upkeep of these systems.  Applicability is 
questionable.

Wet pipe automatic sprinklers probably come in #2 right behind SIPA.

SIPA gets used a lot due to Electrical engineers spazzing over the concept of 
wet pipe water based sprinklers "accidentally going off over their equipment 
and electrocuting people".  I have less issues with owners having concerns over 
wet pipe sprinklers in electrical installations than I do electrical engineers 
who base their presumptions on old Saturday morning loony toons.

I will not go DIPA for electrical rooms, it's gross overkill with no practical 
advantage and actually creates a disadvantaged protection scheme.  If there's a 
fire in an electrical installation and sprinklers don't put it out, fire hoses 
will.  The longer you delay action by the sprinkler system, the greater the 
extent of the damage.

I was in a team meeting with a client when the discussion of fire sprinklers in 
electrical rooms came up.  One EE was vehemently opposed to the idea and 
exclaimed "what is there to burn in an electrical room, there's no chance of a 
fire!"  One of the site maintenance people chimed in, "oh, but don't you 
remember that fire we had in electrical room 123?"  

Greatest fire protection moment ever! 

Little UPS or PC based "server" rooms often don't warrant the cost of a special 
system and should just be protected as you would the surrounding areas.  
Whether required by code or not, it's not a bad idea to place a smoke detector 
in a server closet to provide an early warning of an upset condition to allow 
for manual intervention before it becomes a fire.

Craig L. Prahl 
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29303
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of å... ....
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 4:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Electrical Equipment room by any other name -- UPS battery room FP

Dear Forum:

Your time and effort are appreciated.  Your comments will be used to create a 
more effective and greener design.

What are some experiences with successes of automatic fire suppression  (not 
experiences with "I have been doing it this way for 30 years" [1] )  in battery 
power storage rooms?

Automatic fire suppression successes in battery storage rooms with agent:

   a.  wet pipe standard spray sprinkler
   b.  dry chemical
   c.  CO2,
   d.  other alleged "clean" agent, but hologenated gases;
   e.  wet pipe water mist sprinkler,
   f.  CAF,
   g.  other.

Here is a facility where fire broke First Wind on 3 separate occassions[2].
  After the 3rd go, design migrated away from battery storage and is now using 
dynamic reactive-power to modulate eccentricities in power generation.


[1].  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151116143602.htm
[2].  *http://tinyurl.com/kz9tabr <http://tinyurl.com/kz9tabr>*


​Best of health,


Scot Deal
Excelsior Fire/Risk Engineering


​


On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Matthew J Willis <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Batteries in the UPS?
>
>
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