Just remember - fire control is typically the goal of NFPA 13; not necessarily fire suppression. (Unless ESFR technology is utilized in most application)
John Sent from my iPad > On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:12 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Baled hay would probably mimic baled/bundled fibers just as you said, > potential for deep seated fire, smoldering, etc. > > Baled natural fiber rags are Class III so being a natural material that could > absorb water it looks like Class III is probably closer to a realistic > classification. > > Craig L. Prahl > Fire Protection Group Lead/SME > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29303 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Todd Williams > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Baled Hay > > Hay makes me a little nervous. I'm not sure it would burn like a standard > class III. You could have the potential for a deep seated fire that > sprinklers might not be able to easily contain. To fully extinguish a fire, > you would probably have to remove the burning (or more likely smoldering) > bales from the building, break them apart and wet them down. In that way, it > may behave more like a commodity such as piled wood chips. Anybody with > first-hand hay fire experience out there? > > Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT > 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) > Sent using CloudMagic > [https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Hz2O2ObyPjpI3Dl5UurJXm5dQEURrdruwXiQMX4brPGB0qwi74wS4LNWs4MAkmBGb6U78fnXT2H4ChEk3XsbIqISV0gJAA_eg21fOQoUnCD_Lv4u-RdYWmVozqdm198AhHCrnvuvGWmUKG5iS5UKPchm6tMJFLcBrstiwkZvqEI4YkB3Ym0e9mwDSAbjEY3udFaaaOIVbIB2KJjvEEZ-TLjbE_YaahD0-UuSWD2N9yU7LPzAbF8GjcARE0Z5Ubu72UULWF4fxCJiDuYdQ5NOvqxm86YKY_E73ltqTQ6w_MFMPjZqS6qsj0QEYk_gx--3DC0RhXYFesbZLCRiPCu5ZLjR-Ta4DcsoY-P8Dd4H-8THt8EGAFarQ-Atmw4cj9o8QPJyHRJVAevN1TTVCvDNmsgv0xn0BUjBDqf2hqV7A41v6HJpIxNCzi7ssRlcWcJSvbm-6gfX39fBcHycPYbIaqKDmmYJXV4WuFf9b_eJa-Q4qANsASSngmza2ZR1J8lw/https%3A%2F%2Fcloudmagic.com%2Fk%2Fd%2Fmailapp%3Fct%3Dti%26cv%3D6.0.64%26pv%3D8.2%5D > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:08 PM, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: > Safe to assume bales are rectangular? (I'm guessing cylindrical bales aren't > easily conveyed around a warehouse...) > > Seems like 15' storage of solid piled class III commodity to me. Of course, > FM jobs would need a ceiling height as well. > > Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer > | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9905 | mobile: 701.371.5759 | > http://www.kfiengineers.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary > Stites > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Baled Hay > > Baled Hay (Alfalfa) in a warehouse. On conveyors and/or staged for loading > trucks etc. Could possibly sit overnight stacked up to 15 feet ... > > Ordinary II? Storage? > > -- > Gary Stites > *805-769-GMAN* > > RLH <http://www.rlhfp.com> > WWW.K25.Rocks > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
