Just remember - fire control is typically the goal of NFPA 13; not necessarily 
fire suppression.  (Unless ESFR technology is utilized in most application)

John

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> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:12 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Baled hay would probably mimic baled/bundled fibers just as you said, 
> potential for deep seated fire, smoldering, etc.
> 
> Baled natural fiber rags are Class III so being a natural material that could 
> absorb water it looks like Class III is probably closer to a realistic 
> classification.
> 
> Craig L. Prahl 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Todd Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:02 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Baled Hay
> 
> Hay makes me a little nervous. I'm not sure it would burn like a standard 
> class III. You could have the potential for a deep seated fire that 
> sprinklers might not be able to easily contain. To fully extinguish a fire, 
> you would probably have to remove the burning (or more likely smoldering) 
> bales from the building, break them apart and wet them down. In that way, it 
> may behave more like a commodity such as piled wood chips. Anybody with 
> first-hand hay fire experience out there?
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT
> 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell)
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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:08 PM, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Safe to assume bales are rectangular? (I'm guessing cylindrical bales aren't 
> easily conveyed around a warehouse...)
> 
> Seems like 15' storage of solid piled class III commodity to me. Of course, 
> FM jobs would need a ceiling height as well.
> 
> Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer 
> | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9905 | mobile: 701.371.5759 | 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary 
> Stites
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Baled Hay
> 
> Baled Hay (Alfalfa) in a warehouse. On conveyors and/or staged for loading 
> trucks etc. Could possibly sit overnight stacked up to 15 feet ...
> 
> Ordinary II? Storage?
> 
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> Gary Stites
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