Right. Circulating water in the heating/cooling portion that uses the same
piping. How did fire pumps come up?

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 10:27 AM, <craig.pr...@ch2m.com> wrote:

> There is no consumption of water, hence no reason for the fire pump to be
> engaged.  The system circulates water throughout.  NFPA 13, 2016, 3.4.2.
>
>
>
> There is still mention of these systems in NFPA 13, 2016, “circulating
> Closed Loop Systems, 25.3.  See Figure 23.1.5(a) for a sample layout of
> such a system.
>
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>
> *Craig L. Prahl*
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler.
> org] *On Behalf Of *rongreenman .
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 12:38 PM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* Re: One weird cross connected system [EXTERNAL]
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>
> Also known as tri-water. See if there are heat exchangers off the the
> mains or cross mains.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 4:24 AM, Richard Carr <rc...@coxfire.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a multi-use system, they were common in the 80’s.
>
>
>
> Richard Carr, SET
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> Branch Manager
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler.
> org] *On Behalf Of *Todd Williams
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:11 AM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* One weird cross connected system
>
>
>
> I was at a location last Friday that had one of the strangest systems I
> have seen. This is a 3 story office/retail space with underground parking
> garages. The upper floors are wet and the garages dry. The sprinkler system
> on the upper floor has several connections to feed mechanical equipment
> (VAV boxes, etc.). This has been in place since the mid 1980s and the local
> AHJ has made no comment. I'm sure this is not legal and I have no idea why
> they do not get false alarms or why the fire pump does not go off on a
> regular basis. Has anybody run into something like this before?
>
>
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