It depends on your tolerance to a really mad PRIOR customer.

The standard allows designing to the curve (never a good idea) so the original 
spec installation would comply with 13.  IF the future modification is required 
to be  calculated, I can’t imagine a glowing recommendation will follow.

It will be interesting too see what others are seeing.

Roland


Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>



> On Nov 10, 2016, at 9:50 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> All,
>  
> A couple weeks ago the topic of hydraulic loss through Mech Tee’s was brought 
> up.  I was in agreement with most of the forum that the mech tee counts as a 
> “fitting” and per the exceptions of NFPA 13, the fitting the sprinkler is 
> attached to can be excluded from the calcs.
>  
> That got me thinking (which can be dangerous), how do you treat the scenario 
> of attaching the sprinkler into a reducing bushing which is then screwed into 
> a welded outlet or threaded tee.  This is done all the time for a spec office 
> or warehouse that has the potential for a future TI build out.  If I want to 
> take the code literally, I would ignore the loss in the bushing since that is 
> the fitting the sprinkler is attached to.  However, I would then need to add 
> a short section of 1” pipe with a tee into my calc because it isn’t directly 
> attached.  For a spec office this isn’t that big of a deal as the change is 
> minimal and probably forgettable based on all the other safety factors and 
> constructability.  However, if for whatever reason you are screwing a ¾” 
> thread ESFR into a 1” outlet, the loss can be substantial.
>  
> I was wondering how other people have treated this scenario.  Never thought 
> of it, ignore it, account for it, assume screwed fittings directly attached 
> to each other equals “fitting” for NFPA 13 applications, etc.
>  
> Thanks,
> Sean VG
>  
>  
>  
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