Raining on equipment is one thing, you don’t anticipate an appreciable 
accumulation of rain filling the area and reaching conductors.  Foam on the 
other hand being more three dimensional did accumulate up to several feet in 
the adjacent area.

Water spray wouldn’t have migrated into the adjacent area and wouldn’t have 
resulted in the foam cleanup problem but water spray can also be limited in its 
ability to do anything other than cooling if the electrical equipment contains 
combustible oil cooling material and the event was a result of a pool fire.


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ed Vining
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 2:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: electrical bldg high ex foam in the news [EXTERNAL]

Maybe conductivity of foam shorting out transformers? Or maybe not caused by 
foam, but continuing of cause of first transformer?

Would a waterspray system have resulted in less overall damage?

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Michael Hill 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The more I think on this…..since the building is open to the weather, how would 
the foam cause the equipment in the other bay to explode?

Mike Hill

From: Sprinklerforum 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:19 PM

To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: electrical bldg high ex foam in the news

Nothing like designing for 300% of volume.  Also no way to prevent foam from 
pouring into the unaffected portion of the bldg. probably resulting in the 
second explosion.  Design fail on multiple accounts.

The news clip didn’t reveal the open walled enclosure.  It looked like a 
building with foam coming across the roof which made no sense.

Here is another video from a drone, you can see the foam in the adjacent area 
where there was no initial event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH5W-BW0w2k


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540<tel:(864)%20920-7540>
Fax - 864.920.7129<tel:(864)%20920-7129>
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael Hill
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 12:18 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: electrical bldg high ex foam in the news [EXTERNAL]

That is what it is supposed to do, lots of foam. Did the foam contribute to the 
second explosion in the adjacent bay?

Thanks for the link Ryan.

Mike Hill

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Labrie
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 12:06 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: electrical bldg high ex foam in the news

I saw a video of this on reddit yesterday, PECO power substation building in 
Philadelphia, PA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrl2cKzGMGs

Ryan Labrie
Fire Protection Designer

Critical System Solutions, LLC
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122<tel:(727)%20209-5122>
Fax:      727.209.5126<tel:(727)%20209-5126>
Cell:     813.394.3978<tel:(813)%20394-3978>
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:52 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: electrical bldg high ex foam in the news

Over the weekend I saw a news report of a Philadelphia HI EX foam discharge 
which was reported as protecting an electrical sub-station I believe.

Does anyone have any info on this?



Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540<tel:(864)%20920-7540>
Fax - 864.920.7129<tel:(864)%20920-7129>
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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