I'd think after the conditions described the shelf life of the tote would
be in question as much as the foam.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> The location in which it currently resides is being relocated along with
> valve connections and additional piping.  As part of the relocation work,
> if the foam is no longer viable it needs to be replaced as part of this
> project.  It is part of the protection for some pretty large fuel storage
> tanks.  So if it’s no good, yes it’s worth messing with.
>
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>
> Just found out that if it was stored properly that is with at least a 1/4”
> layer of Foam Seal Oil, the shelf life of the product at the temperature
> extremes in which it’s stored, is at least 25 years.
>
>
> *Craig L. Prahl*
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> *CH2M*
> 200 Verdae Blvd.
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540 <(864)%20920-7540>
>
> Fax - 864.920.7129 <(864)%20920-7129>
>
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces
> @lists.firesprinkler.org] *On Behalf Of *Matt Grise
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 5:27 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Shelf life of AR-AFFF foam concentrate [EXTERNAL]
>
>
>
> What is the value of the foam concentrate? Is it worth messing with?
>
>
>
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II
> Vice President – New Construction
> *Alliance Fire Protection*
>
> 130 w 9th Ave.
> North Kansas City, MO 64116
>
>
> **Licensed in KS & MO*
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>
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> 913.888.0647 <(913)%20888-0647> ph
> 913.888.0618 <(913)%20888-0618> f
> 913.526.7443 <(913)%20526-7443> cell
> *www. AFPsprink.com*
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces
> @lists.firesprinkler.org <[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:25 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Shelf life of AR-AFFF foam concentrate
>
>
>
> No, we do not have such a test facility.  We don’t do that kind of work.
>
>
>
>
> *Craig L. Prahl*
> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
> *CH2M*
> 200 Verdae Blvd.
> Greenville, SC  29607
> Direct - 864.920.7540 <(864)%20920-7540>
>
> Fax - 864.920.7129 <(864)%20920-7129>
>
> CH2MHILL Extension  77540
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces
> @lists.firesprinkler.org <[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *å... ....
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 5:10 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Shelf life of AR-AFFF foam concentrate [EXTERNAL]
>
>
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> The ChemGuard chemist told me, back in the day, that 20 years was their
> expectation.
>
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>
> I seem to recall 3M put a 25-year shelf life on their PFOS (perfluoroctane
> sulfanate) /PFOA (perfluoroctanoic acid) AFFF, but then their
> electro-telomerization formulation was halted long-before that expiration
> date arrived.
>
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>
> Surely CH2M-Hill has a test facility where you can put some of this foam
> through its paces with a turbulent pool fire?  We remamber that
> ease-of-extinguishing tank fires scales exponentially, and not just due to
> the square of the radius.
>
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>
>
> ​Scot Deal
>
> Excelsior Fire & Risk Engineering
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