Top of pipe to point of attachment to structure I believe was the wording. 

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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:33 PM, rongreenman . <rongreen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And if I recall, some time ago rods six inches or less had the addendum that 
> the measurement had to be taken from the top of the pipe. 
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:17 PM Parsley Consulting 
>> <parsleyconsult...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Rocci, 
>>     You're  correct in one way, the '16 edition no longer allows the use of 
>> hanger rods less than 6" long to omit lateral seismic bracing on mains, if 
>> the Cp value is greater than 0.50.  That does indeed cover most of 
>> California, and several other places as well.  
>>     That change was added to 9.3.5.5.10.2, (4) in this last cycle, along 
>> with a few other qualifiers.
>>     And Travis correct as well, short rods would only allow omission of 
>> lateral bracing, should the Cp < 0.50. Longitudinal would still be required.
>> sincerely,
>> Ken Wagoner, SET
>> Parsley Consulting
>> 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206
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>>> On 03/20/2017 12:51 PM, Rocci Cetani 3 wrote:
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>>> I believe 2016 has greater restrictions on this……From what I remember it 
>>> basically eliminates California from using this exception due to the max Cp 
>>> of 0.50
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>>> Short rods only eliminate lateral bracing.  You will still need 
>>> longitudinal bracing.
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>>> On 3/20/2017 12:39 PM, Tony Silva wrote:
>>> 
>>> In a 13R building there are a 2" cpvc blazemaster supply mains run to 
>>> supply the upper floor sprinkler systems. The piping will be supported 
>>> using 2" long rods. The location requires seismic protection. Will sway 
>>> bracing be required? Any other requirements?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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>>> Tony
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