1) Same here. However I am not an OSHA inspector even though pointing out the 
arc flash potential of 480 3 phase with short circuit overcurrent protection. I 
stand to the side out of the cone, the burn unit is not somewhere I want to 
visit.

2) Yes. Have witnessed all of these things, add in imbalance from cinder caught 
in impeller, overcurrent protection too low, cut in /out settings wrong..

John Drucker
Assistant Construction Official
Fire & Electrical Subcode Official
Building Inspector
Borough of Red Bank, NJ
Cell/Text 732-904-6823
On Mar 30, 2017 12:36 AM, Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> wrote:
I witnessed initial more than a dozen  of the 75 and 100 hp electric motor 
powered pumps installed when ESFR first came out, and meant 14.2k pendant.

I never saw the pump rep or spk fitter dressed in anything but their regular 
clothes.

This is central Puget Sound.

Best

Bruce Verhei

(Do municipal inspections make a difference? They knew I was going to be there. 
Supposedly pre-tested. Less than half would have passed without changes. Phase 
wired wrong, several times. Underground fed from two directions. One valve not 
fully open. And Ta da, pump turning wrong way.)

On Mar 29, 2017, at 19:34, Forest Wilson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Years ago, I completed the Fire Pump Technician Certification Training through 
Peerless Pump Company at their headquarters, under a great guy named Pete Noll.
The FireTrol controller rep also trained the students and certified them.
The course was designed for a technician to be competent to perform work on the 
controller and pump. PPE has ALWAYS been required per OSHA. Most sprinkler 
companies and many fire pump sales reps are too ignorant to use the PPE. This 
obviously includes proper gloves, boots, rubber mat, eyewear, etc. The AFSA 
worked with OSHA years ago to develop a very basic safety program for the 
industry but what I did (when I was in business) was contact the OSHA and 
Workers Comp Small Business Rep and they worked with me (even made worksite 
observations) to develop a good safety plan.


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 7:32 AM, John Denhardt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My personal opinion - no.

John August Denhardt, P.E.
Strickland Fire Protection

On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:34 AM, John Irwin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

What are an inspector’s responsibilities when it comes to opening up a fire 
pump controller? One of our inspector’s wants me to buy him some PPE so he can 
comfortably open up the fire pump controller. I am certainly not opposed to 
this but I have talked to a number of inspectors at other companies who say if 
there isn’t an external meter on the cabinet, the voltage isn’t getting 
recorded. Should sprinkler inspectors even be in the cabinet?




John Irwin - CET
Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers
Critical System Solutions, LLC
License Number: FPC16-000053
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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