Yeah, but that stuff they put on the ground is shredded tires. So... I guess 
start looking at tire storage criteria. Probably go ESFR in that area.

-Kyle M

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 12:10 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Exterior Play Area

I vote no sprinklers required -- open and noncombustible- the rockinghorse on a 
spring is like a newspaper machine - there will always be just one of them- not 
one today and twelve tomorrow.

Brad.

Quoting Steve Leyton <st...@protectiondesign.com>:

> 8.15.7.5.
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Irwin
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:10 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Subject: RE: Exterior Play Area
>
> I can appreciate your opinion, but I need a code reference.  😉
>
> John Irwin
> DynaFire Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
> <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum-
> boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:47 PM
> To:  
> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir
> esprinkler.org>
> Subject: RE: Exterior Play Area
>
> Assuming there’s play equipment there (fire load) and knowing that 
> there are kids occupying the space, I wouldn’t call this an
> “exterior projection”.   It’s a shad structure with occupancy below  
> and IMO requires sprinkler protection.
>
> SML
>
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Irwin
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 10:42 AM
> To:  
> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerfo...@lists.fir
> esprinkler.org>
> Subject: Exterior Play Area
>
> Protecting a light hazard Boys and Girls Club. I excluded an exterior, 
> but covered, attached and open play area. Non-combustible.
> It’s a couple thousand square feet. I excluded using NFPA 13 2013
> 8.15.7
>
> Client is telling me that he her other fire sprinkler guys telling him 
> he needs sprinklers in that areas.
>
> What say you?
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D3D318.846AE470]
>
>
> John Irwin
> Fire Sprinkler Specialist
> DynaFire, Inc. – “Same Day – Next Day”
> 727-282-9243 – Cell
>
> “A customer is the most important visitor on our premises. He is not 
> dependent on us. We are dependent on him. He is not an interruption on 
> our work. He is the purpose of it. He is not an outsider on our 
> business. He is a part of it. We are not doing him a favour by serving 
> him. He is doing us a favour by giving us an opportunity to do so.”



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