I'll bet the "standard" is quaking in its boots. What, exactly, do you find lacking or out of place about this standard you vaguely refer to? That it doesn't make provisions for these types of obstructions to sprinkler discharge (which baffles and so-called heat collectors most certainly are) or that it doesn't a prescription for how to install objects that have been proven to delay the operation of sprinklers?
For all the pseudo-combative comments you make about these "standards", I have to wonder: have you ever made a proposal or a public input? Ever applied to join a technical committee? Ever in any fashion offered to work in any capacity as part of a solution to some perceived problem with the standards? Assuming your answers to the preceding are no, no and no and seeing that you're "ready to rumble", now's a great time to dive in ... Steve L. -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sidewalls in Partial Soffits I've never been so ready to rumble Travis, especially with a "standard". Brad Quoting Travis Mack <[email protected]>: > You can feel free to put your liability and career on the line for > something like that. I don’t think it is supported in any code or > standard. If I were doing the project in question I would say no. > > However some one could prove it wrong with a code or standard reference. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > "Follow" us on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to MFP Design via: > https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:14 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> I agree "heat collectors" are useless for pendents Travis. >> I think this is because they were installed horizontal. If they >> were installed vertical, they would be "heat directors", causing >> the ceiling jet to dip down and pop the head. That's what we have >> here. >> >> Brad >> >> Quoting Travis Mack <[email protected]>: >> >>> This seems like no different than a “heat collector” for pendents. >>> Which we all know those are useless. >>> >>> Travis Mack, SET >>> MFP Design, LLC >>> "Follow" us on Facebook: >>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >>> Send large files to MFP Design via: >>> https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:46 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> Great point about what's not in the code Jerry- I see only WIDTH >>>> verbiage - nothing about length! >>>> >>>> Your AHJ mileage may vary. >>>> >>>> Brad >>>> >>>> Quoting Jerry Van Kolken <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> I have soffits over cabinets. The GC is asking if they can do a partial >>>>> soffit just at the sidewall location to pop over the cabinet >>>>> instead of the >>>>> entire cabinet length. Logically I'm thinking this is a no, but >>>>> not sure I >>>>> have any code verbiage to indicate either way. Is there a reference I can >>>>> look at. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is project is turning into a really look at the code, or more what's >>>>> not stated in the code. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerry Van Kolken >>>>> >>>>> Millennium Fire Protection Corp. >>>>> >>>>> 2950 San Luis Rey Rd. >>>>> >>>>> Oceanside, CA 92058 >>>>> >>>>> (760) 722-2722 FX 722-2730 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
