The diesel engine may be able to operate at 130 -140 deg (F) but your 
controller may not function at that temp.  So, whichever part of the system has 
the lower failure temp, that is what will dictate the maximum allowable room 
temp.  Could the controllers operate at more than 120(F), maybe, but do you 
want to roll the dice on that gamble?

AC is the only option if outside air temps exceed the maximum allowable room 
temp. but remember, it doesn't have to be to human comfort levels (72F) and you 
could use whatever method of cooling is available at the facility whether that 
be DX or CW or evaporative cooling.   Sometimes a small mini-split system will 
work other times if the temps are extreme you'll have to provide a more robust 
system.

Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | 
[email protected] | www.jacobs.com<http://www.jacobs.com/>

From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Sean.VanGaal
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 1:21 PM
To: '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Maximum temperature in Fire Pump rooms

NFPA 20 lists 120F as the maximum temperature of the room for Diesel Fire 
Pumps.  I am wondering where this number came from.  Was it just a dart throw 
or was there testing behind it?

I ask because the high temperature in Arizona is 122F.  NFPA 20 states you have 
to properly ventilate the room with no clear guidance beyond this.  Since fan 
only ventilation is impossible in our extreme situation than some sort of Air 
Conditioning would be required to maintain the 120F.

I have dug around and found pump controllers are rated for 40C (104F) and 50C 
(122F).  Electric motors carry similar temperature ratings as controllers.  
Diesel engines can have air intake as high as 130F per their manufacturer's 
datasheet (not per NFPA 20).  So I am wondering if this is one of those 
scenarios where the line in the sand was drawn, and then all the manufacturers 
had their equipment tested/listed to comply with this line.  Can these 
components actually operate without failure at higher temperatures such as 130F 
or 140F.  Obviously you would want to properly de-rate pump performance 
accordingly.

Have any of you dealt with similar issues?  Were there any accepted solutions 
besides Air Conditioning?

Thanks,
Sean VG


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