I will restate my comment.  Since there is no dedicated FP function for a water 
meter, I don’t see why any of the NRTLs would establish a test standard for 
listing them.   Do you know if in fact there is such a listing for any meters, 
regardless of size?  I could see it possibly for a large diameter turbine meter 
in case a dedicated private fire service requires measurement.   Another 
consideration is terminology – there are backflow assemblies that carry UL and 
FM seals but to my knowledge they’re not “listed” backflow assemblies, they’re 
“classified”.   Listing of backflows (as recognized by water agencies 
nationwide) is the responsibility of the Foundation for Cross-Connection 
Control and Hydraulic Research at University of Southern California (FCCCHR).  
Their approval is the ONLY one that is accepted by every water purveyor we’ve 
ever dealt with.  The UL classification of backflows for FP applications 
entails comparing the actual head loss to the published curves (must match) and 
test case burst strength (must be 4x working pressure).   But “listing” would 
entail testing and certifying an appliance for its performance as a backflow 
prevention device, which is decidedly NOT undertaken by UL or FM.

So to the issue of a “listed” meter, I question whether it would be actually 
listed or simply classified for domestic and/or fire applications.

Steve L.

From: Vince Sabolik [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Steve Leyton; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hello Forum, me again....

Residential 13R system, water purveyor requirement.
I know about listed stuff but water department wants it FM'd too.
On 12/6/2019 3:54 PM, Steve Leyton wrote:
Meters don’t serve a FP function so why would one be listed?

SL

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Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 12:53 PM
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Cc: Vince Sabolik
Subject: Hello Forum, me again....

Anybody know of a 2" UL listed FM approved water meter?

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Vince Sabolik
West Tech Fire Protection, Inc.
11351 Pearl Road   /   Strongsville, Ohio   44136
Phone 440 238-4800    Fax  440 238-4876   Cell 440 724-7601

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Vince Sabolik
West Tech Fire Protection, Inc.
11351 Pearl Road   /   Strongsville, Ohio   44136
Phone 440 238-4800    Fax  440 238-4876   Cell 440 724-7601
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