Yes, we see them in commercial and residential applications, including single 
family homes. We recently had a situation where small diameter (6') fans were 
suspended below an overhang at an exterior lunch and gathering space attached 
to a large office building. The local fire authority required that the 
clearances be observed just as they are prescribed in the manufacturer's 
installation data and NFPA 13.  Maintaining the clearance from blades to the 
deflectors vertically required that these fans be installed at 8' above 
finished floor and the lid was at 11'.

We protested that it wasn't the intent in such an application but the ahj would 
not budge.  I ended up contacting Big Ass Fans directly and asked them if they 
could draft a letter or in some way help us clarify the intent, which I was 
sure was not to require conformance to such a deep clearance.  To my unpleasant 
surprise they would not touch it, stating that they had done all the research 
that they intended to do for the time being and the installation guidelines say 
what they say.  They did recommend that I looked at the test reports that were 
used by the NFPA 13 committee to draft the current language in the standard.  I 
read both FM test reports and also the UL narrative that are available on this 
subject. If you bore into the FM test data, there are some thermal images that 
show that the spinning fan actually throws heat away from the center of its 
shadow and by diverting it that way creates a hot red ring around the outside 
of the blade circle.  It's reasonable to infer that, if sprinklers are 
positioned outside that circle, this phenomenon would actually enhance their 
operation but our local building department wouldn't concur unless we had our 
own fire test data to support such a conclusion.

All of this makes installation of these fans in a sprinklered environment other 
than high bay storage potentially a very undesirable scenario because the fans 
will be hanging way down below the ceilings if enforcing agencies know the 
rules.



Steve Leyton

(Sent from my phone; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.)




-------- Original message --------
From: Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]>
Date: 2/12/20 12:32 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected]
Cc: Matt Grise <[email protected]>
Subject: HVLS fans in non-storage hazard

Has anyone seen or heard any info on HVLS fans in non-storage hazard 
applications?

We are seeing them frequently in fitness centers and apartment clubhouses, even 
in some larger loft apartments. It seems like the study that led to the 
guidelines in NFPA 13  11.1.7 (2016 ed) was based on storage applications. Does 
anyone know of any information or studies done in other hazard types?

As far as I can tell, NFPA 13 does not differentiate between hazard types for 
the HVLS rules, but I was curious how they affect residential and light hazard 
systems, or if there is a minimum HVLS size or well defined criteria. Some of 
the new ‘industrial look’ residential fans have straight airfoil blades, but I 
don’t know if they qualify.

Any info would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Matt
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