Sounds to me like the unit is in the ductwork (a separate compartment of non-combustible construction), it is surrounded by an inaccessible concealed space of limited combustible construction), and opens to another separate compartment by removing the grill that visually conceals it from that latter, occupied compartment that is protected.
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I had one > from them in a hotel project recently. 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There is not a door into this space only a discharge grill that can > be removed by the maintenance staff to get access to service these units. > > The local AHJ says that I have to install a sprinkler head to protect this > space. > The way I interpret NFPA-13 2013 paragraph http://8.15.1.2<http://8.15.1.2> > and 8.15.1.2.2 it does not require a sprinkler head in this space. > > HELP > > Thanks, > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > mailto:Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > < > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto: > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > < > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
