My hogwash radar alarm went off. So I checked. People in the fire sprinkler protection business did time combing through code and standards books. I cannot apologize for checking. US Antitrust laws comprise three acts. One is The Sherman Anti-Trust Act. It is all about conspiracy in restraint of trade, such as monopolization, attempted monopolization or conspiracy or combination to monopolize. Wrong buzzer on that one. The second Act is The Federal Trade Commission Act. It bans unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices. Wrong buzzer on that one also. The third Act is The Clayton Antitrust Act. It is about mergers and acquisitions that substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly. Wrong buzzer for that one also. Checking steel prices, the US steel prices are currently 3 to 4 times what they where at this time last year. The steel prices in other parts of the world are not exhibiting the same degree of out of balance. The true antitrust aspect has to do with the price of steel. That alone may not be what this forum is about, but a good portion of a sprinkler system is steel. Certainly, business contract practices necessary to ensure the proper health of fire sprinkler contractors’ businesses so that they can provide and install effective fire sprinkler systems is forum material.
Alllan Seidel St. Louis, MO > On Aug 5, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Kevin Hall via Sprinklerforum > <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > > Just a reminder to the forum that this is toeing the line on > Anti-Trust Policies. Please refrain from further comment on specific > pricing of products and proposals. > > Kevin Hall, M.Eng., P.E., ET, CWBSP, PMSFPE > *Coordinator, Engineering and Technical Services* > > *American Fire Sprinkler Association* > p: 214-349-5971 > w: firesprinkler.org > <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> > <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-fire-sprinkler-association-afsa-/> > <https://www.instagram.com/firesprinklerorg/> > > > *Get in the (Fitter) Zone!* > > AFSA's "Fitter Zone" features live webinars designed specifically for fire > sprinkler fitters. 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Learn more *here* > <https://www.firesprinkler.org/fitterzone>. > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 12:18 PM JD Gamble via Sprinklerforum < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > >> Who all is demanding an escalation clause in contracts right now? >> >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ________________________________ >> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> on >> behalf of Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum < >> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> >> Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:14:37 AM >> To: 321 <tcf...@bellsouth.net>; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org < >> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> >> Cc: Skyler Bilbo <sbi...@wenteplumbing.com> >> Subject: Re: Material Prices !! >> >> Domestic steel prices are through the roof. Domestic HRB went from around >> $600 per ton around October 2020 to around $1,966 per ton recently, in >> pretty much a straight line up. Make sure you are communicating this to >> your customers. Wood has pretty much come back to earth from the recent >> high, but steel seemingly keeps going up. >> >> >> Skyler Bilbo >> 217-819-6404 Cell >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 10:44 AM 321 via Sprinklerforum < >> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: >> >>> I bought almost exactly the same jobs about 5 months ago for less than >>> half of that!! Where is the "Choke Point" on this ? Is it steel pipe, >> Iron >>> Fittings, availability? >>> On of my best vendors told me this morning that they cant get pipe and >>> fittings imported because Walmart bought up all the Sea Can Shipping >>> containers for their use. >>> A shipping container shortage is snarling global trade >>> >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> A shipping container shortage is snarling global trade >>> >>> Nicolás Rivero >>> >>> The shortage of shipping containers is yet another symptom of the havoc >>> the pandemic has wrought on internationa... >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I can't pass these cost thru to customers...we budgeted these jobs 6 or 7 >>> months ago with some escalation built in...but not 150% !! >>> >>> John W. FarabeeCertified Lower Keys Plumbing and FireKey West, Florida >>> 561-707-5150 >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 11:33:13 AM EDT, Spencer Tomlinson via >>> Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: >>> >>> It's this way across the board - lead times are increasing as well, for >>> what used to be pretty standard order items. I hear there may still be >>> another 3-5% coming. >>> >>> Spencer Tomlinson, PE >>> Owner, Fire Protection Engineer >>> >>> >>> Ph: 316-202-6412 >>> Fax: 316-202-2346 >>> Cell: 620-955-7293 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On >>> Behalf Of 321 via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:31 AM >>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> Cc: 321 <tcf...@bellsouth.net> >>> Subject: Material Prices !! >>> >>> I just received quotes on some steel fab on 2: different systems we are >>> doing. Try $238.63/head for a center feed, 2 1/2" Cross Main/2" Branch >> Line >>> Thin wall/Welded/Galvanized system !! $21,000 for 88 heads....heads not >>> included!! >>> Anyone else experiencing this insanity?! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> >>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> >>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> >>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
